Pentecostal Soundmen
 

Who is the best Pentecostal Soundmen?


My vote goes in this order:
Terry Stewart
Ronnie James
Jason Frost (self Proclaimed Pastor of Sound)

What's a soundman?

scooter, how about Allard and pac west ??? :christmoose

The guy everyone in a service HATES. The speaker, not enough monitor. The musicians cannot hear.

The audience it sounds garbled.

The webcast- why don't soundmen listen to what they feed?!?!?

We have Bose and Pioneer systems in our cars and house and we rely on scratch, squeel, pop and hiss for our services.





I hate soundmen.

Thad:
Terry Stewart is by far better for Church settings.

Pac-West is good if you are just pure concert, which I understand you folks from the Merced area are for more of the show/concert type atmosphere than the actual church moving of the Holy Ghost type thing.ha

My vote goes to our music minister, John Mahoney! He can produce the best sound I have ever heard. His sound shaping skills take marginal voices and make them sound excellent.

oh ok, thank you.

delta soundman is one of the best non technical soundmen I know. He just understands how to put the audience first and not allow those in power to rule him.

Other good soundmen to add to his list - that crazy guy Jeff Langston from pacwest lol

have you heard of a Armando Fullwood from Design 20/20 in North Carolina, not UPC but i hear is a brilliant engineer - does sound for some big church there ??

Also, Eric Williams - heard of him??

nothing further from the church - Does Jealousy reigns in the WD ??

uh, dear, you may want to use some smilies......

WoooHooo, BOOMM just got smacked on the head with a soft back Songs We Sing hymnal! :D

You are funny! We used to have a woman in our church that took it upon herself to throw songbooks at the young people when they weren't singing. Now, that really made them WANT to sit up and sing! My Dad had to have some meaningful dialogue with her a few times......had to edit to add some smilies....:happydance:happydance

[QUOTE=Scooter;344498]Who is the best Pentecostal Soundmen?


I could name several who are NOT!



Kevin McManus at First UPC Nashville does a great job

has anyone ever heard of a sound guy from Long Island ,NY ??

I can't remember his name right now - he graduated from IBC and moved to the Bay area for a while. we had him do some work for us- good job BTW
i cannot remember his name right now ......

scooter, do you Brother Deepak??? he's good at sound too and helps us out

His name is Vinnie.......Very nice young man. He did wonders for our sound...until it was messed up again.

Is it messed up again?? been sounding ok to me
course they keep me in those dump lil ear pieces

Thad,
I know Deepack Shakur haha. tell him i said hello

Well, Yeah...
 

Like duh...delta SOUNDman! Nuff said!

Its really funny how pretending to turn knobs and a nod or a wave seems to fix things that people ask for!!:banghead

Pac West just did a concert for me and they were very very good. For the live setting/concert I would go with Pac West. For venues such campmeetings, youth conventions etc I would go with Simon Productions (Terry Stewart). Eric is Terrys assistant Thad. Great guy. One thing about Terry though is he always mikes the drums to loud. He used to tour for TAMA Drums and is very passionate about the kick drum...lol Other than that, he kind of knows how people like it in a church setting. Jeff with packwest is awesome at special effects and will blow your socks off at a concert. And as for Starbucks I would go with a Grande Peppermint White Mocha. (Just thought I would add that)

I dont know that he has ever been pentecostal but he caters a lot to a lot of pentecostals and was a good friend of ours and I have to say one of the best... Randy Adams.

I'm with BOOM on this...

they just can't ever get it right in service...with all the technology and managing equipment, we still have generally very poor service sound around the country...

Even when they think they have it "right," it's always too low, too loud or too garbled or that proverbial "hum" is there...

Truisms:

Musicians are deaf...they always want the maximum monitor
Speakers are not deaf...but are making us deaf with the extreme sound level
Soundmen are always deaf...to suggestions, to signals from the platform, etc.

As "the poor ye shall have with you always," so it is with "the poor sound ye shall have with you always."

All I know about pentecostal sound men is that is the guy you had better bribe if you are a visiting preacher. He holds your preaching career in his hands. If he like you, he knows just how to adjust the monitors, the bass and trebble and just how to make you sound fantastic to yourself and to the audience too making them scramble for your tapes after church.

If that pentecostal soundman does not like you. Forget it. Nobody is going to like hearing you over the PA and you are going to strip your vocal cords out trying to preach. He will never see your uplifted thumb when you try to signal to him to properly adjust the monitors. He will ignore you and make you work your silly self to death.

Musicians and preachers...keep the soundman happy. Maybe a bribe will help...after all, it is your career on the line. :D

You need to visit our church - we have awesome sound!!!!

Randy is a very good and EXPENSIVE sound man.He recorded Vanilla Ice's big hit Ice baby or whatever it's called.I've played on about 10 albums that Randy's recorded and he would intimidate me.He was ready to replace you if you made a couple of mistakes.Time is money!he would say.

I agree B. Randy is good and he knows it and does not spare anyones feelings.. Especially Bass players, since Randy used to play for Dallas Holm and a few others... Never heard him play the bass but he talks a good game..

I've never heard him play either but he said he was not good enough to keep playing professionally so he started doing the sound and recording.I play the bass and it took a while before he trusted me.We went to Russia back in the 90's and he went along and ran sound at the concerts.

And sometimes those music directors and singers simply don't want to make a scene even though they are quite AWARE that nothing has changed. :penguin

Just a plug here: BHILL IS THE BEST BASS PLAYER IN PENTECOST. :D

Okay, I'm done now. :coffee2

I am SURE he is great....but....I have 2 words for you: Tommy & Brown, nuf said

Nope. Sorry. BHill is it. :christmoose Tommy who?

You can find him at "Bass Player Magazine", Shirley Caeser, Every big black gospel event, Alembic Bass company, and of course, CLC...trust me on this.

Monkeyman, dear, let me educate you: Exposure and publicity and public performances do not the "best" bass player make. Some of the best musicians in Pentecost are also the best kept secrets. :coffee2

Larry Carter was one of the BEST guitar players in Pentecost back when he was basically undiscovered. I remember the first year he played at IBC Music Fest. It was total snobbery at first, while the little country boy took the stage. But LC had been playing for local churches and recordings for years before he was *discovered* by the UPCI music culture.

Obviously Tommy Brown is realllllllly good. I agree with you on that. :)

I guess thats a side of Randy we never saw. He did the sound for our church for 2 yrs after my dad had a major surgery that ended up with him nearly dying. We had lost our sound and he did it at no charge and was just a great all around person. He is still a friend of our families and a great person and yes he can play bass and very well also. He played a few times when our bass player was out also.

Let me see.... James Owens comes to mind along with a few others... Fact is we, in Pentecost, are blessed with some of the greatest Tobias toting bass players in the world. I am not sure about this BHill person.... other than Miss B and her family, most great things came OUT of Oklahoma! :D

Amen and Glory!!! Its a blessing to be OUT of Ok!

Well, there are lots of great musicians. :) I'm just pointing out that simply being well-known is not the biggest factor. TB is definitely pretty awesome.

LOL...well, we went INTO Oklahoma. Self-destructive? :D

Even Oklahoma deserves a touch of class and with AG and me gone... ya'll are their only hope! :D

Class? Dunno about that...Jeff loves bluegrass. ;) (And I have a not-so-secret affinity for Allison Krauss) Is that really classy?

As for soundmen: Good soundmen know their job and do it well, AND they need to know how to work with, not against, singers and musicians. Most singers simply want to be heard, and to hear themselves. It isn't narcissism--it's a necessity, or you'll go flat, and the audience will hear muddled lyrics under the din of music. When I sing, I feel that it is for the purpose of putting forth a message of some sort, even a sermon, and I want it to be heard, or else why should I even sing? (Obviously outside of singing with the congregation or singing directly to God, which everyone should do! In the shower is a great place to let the music SOAR!)

I do recognize that things can get out of hand, and get reallllllly loud, if not kept in check, but everyone really has to work on that, and the sound man is hurting everyone and the church service if his frustrated response is to indecorously turn everything down to a whisper.

Additionally, some people are put in charge of sound who don't really know the job, but they're just the one available on Sunday morning. *sigh* Even worse, some seem to enjoy their "power" over the musicians and singers, and seem to take pleasure in causing frustration, and spend way too much time complaining about busted eardrums, when in fact a *hot* mic insures I will NOT scream my lyrics, but will sing them instead.

Okay. I've vented enough, even though I sure enough have more to say. :D