New Bishop installed in Jamaica: Oneness Pentecostalism in Jamaica
 

Mind & Spirit - A place of honour
published: Saturday | December 1, 2007
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Bishop Geoffrey Johnson and his wife Pastor Gloria Joyce Johnson.

Mark Dawes, Staff Reporter

Tomorrow is a big day in the life of The Apostolic Ark Pentecostal Church of Jamaica as that denomination will, at 3:00 p.m., consecrate Bishop Geoffrey Wellington Johnson to the office of apostle.

The consecration service is scheduled to take place at the Brown's Town congregation of the church group located on Huntley Avenue.

For Bishop Johnson, 68, the elevation to the rank of apostle is the consummation of a process begun by the Holy Spirit when, as a 27-year-old youngster, he began formal service in the sacred ministry. He was, up to that time, a supervisor, working for the Roads and Works Department of the Government. More specifically, the attaining of the rank of apostle is another elevation to a place of honour in his 52-year career as a minister of the gospel.

It is a culmination of the gifts that God, in His grace, has imparted to him for the building up of the Church, as recorded in Ephesians 4:11 (apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors , teachers).

Highest rank
As an apostle, little will change in the day-to-day life of Bishop Johnson as he leads the 20,000 strong denomination. In fact, he said that the position of apostle, though titular, is the highest rank within his church organisation. The office of apostle, he continued, is primarily concerned with ensuring that the 30-odd churches within the denomination are properly grounded in beliefs.

The Apostolic Ark Pentecostal Church of Jamaica is Oneness Pentecostal in creed and has been in Jamaica from as early as 1919. As the bishop of that chapter of the apostolic witness in Jamaica, Bishop Johnson has responsibility for the welfare of the congregations islandwide. His bishopric also extends to congregations in, the United States and England, where he and other leaders of the denomination have planted churches in Canada.

Bishop Johnson has been the leader of the Brown's Town congregation since 1965 when Bishop Henry Adrian Lee died. In fact, the Brown's Town church was the very first established in The Apostolic Ark Pentecostal denomination. Today, the Brown's Town church complex also houses the headquarters of The Apostolic Ark Pentecostal churches in Jamaica.

When Bishop Johnson took over from his mentor, the congregation numbered fewer than 50. Today, it is more than 500 and growing.

The bishop explained that in the polity of The Apostolic Ark churches, one's promotion in the ecclesiastical rank is determined by means of prophecy. He explained that if Mr. X is to be promoted, then a number of persons exercising the gift of prophecy would need to testify that they have heard from God saying Mr. X ought to be promoted to a particular rank. That was how it was for him, he said.

A much travelled clergyman, Bishop Johnson cites cases where his ministry has brought healing, exorcism of demons and even the raising of dead. For those who are unconvinced, Bishop Johnson said he can provide an auditable trail to show that signs and wonders still exist as it did in the recorded history of the Bible.

A much sought after preacher, Bishop Johnson disclosed that it is not his style to write out his sermons, as indicative of his total reliance on God to tell him what to say. The Bishop and his wife Pastor Gloria Joyce Johnson bask in the glory of 43 years of marital bliss. Their union has produced four sons and three daughters - all of whom are actively involved in some area of Christian ministry.

Adultery

The clergyman is not without his own thought-provoking dogmas, and some of these revolve around divorce. He believes that if a Christian divorces his/her spouse and then remarries, then "God cannot save you, for that would be living in adultery". But it is a different matter if the one became divorced and then became a Christian and then marries. He explains that in such an instance, God would have to speak to him in such a way to release him to appoint that twice married person to a position of responsibility in the Church.

While most denominations in Jamaica cannot provide a pastor for each congregation, The Apostolic Ark Pentecostal churches have no such problem. All the churches in the group have a pastor. Furthermore, most of the pastors are women.

Bishop Johnson acknowledges few regrets in the way he has done ministry. With the wealth of experience gained, Bishop Johnson is keen to pass on some of his knowledge to younger pastors in the movement. He will address himself to that challenge in immediate future, he told The Gleaner. In particular, Bishop Johnson wants to encourage his fellow ministers to remain faithful to Biblical strategies and ways of doing ministry, despite the temptations to do otherwise. His basic argument to them "is continue in the gospel and it will draw who must come to the Lord."

Renowned for his social and community activism, Bishop Johnson and members of his congregation in 2005 built a two-storey building on the grounds of the Brown's Town Police Station which houses the officers, a kitchen and a garage. This initiative was birthed out of a concern the bishop and his church had when they learnt of substandard conditions under which the officers were doing their duties. There are other major projects being planned, but the bishop remained tightlipped as he was not yet ready to disclose his plans.

Multi-purpose building
Labelled a visionary by many of his peers, the bishop is also the envy of many pastors for the multi-purpose building which houses his church. He built the church big, long before he had people to fill it. The building also has a studio where persons can obtain DVDs and CDs of the sermons delivered on a Sunday morning by the time the service is over. Also, Bishop Johnson, who has been the host and presenter of the 'Showers of Pentecost' radio programme for the past 30 years, uses the studio facilities there to produce the audio file for delivery to Radio Jamaica weekly. The programme is broadcast on Sunday nights between 10:00 p.m. and 10:30 p.m.

Bishop Johnson hinted that there is not much left in his ministry as a clergyman that he has not accomplished, but he intends to keep preaching as long as God gives him the strength. His ministry is in demand and more congregations are seeking to have him preach there. High on his radar for ministry in the immediate future is Africa, Italy and Trinidad. He expects to answer that call before long.

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I have always admired the Jamaican churches in New York. In New York City, great West Indian churches have sprung up under Bishop Mike Mitchell, Bishop Devon Dawson, Bishop Lincoln Graham, Sr. and Bishop Arthur Thomas [District Supt of NYMD] .... their worship is exciting and their consecration genuine.

I know of the contributions and influence the Trout family and Steward family have had on the island. Of course, the Jamaican church has not been immune from controversy.

I am glad I got to see a microcosm of these great people of God in NYC.

Thought I'd share the above article about a oneness org in Jamaica. Interesting to see this particular Oneness org's views on divorce, women in the ministry and succession to head bishop.

Any thoughts, comments, etc?

This si wonderful news! Soy muy contento que ese hermano continua en la trabaja del Senor. Thank Jesus for good men willing to do a good work.


BTW, trying to continue the improvement on my Spanish. Don't hold it against me???

Bill, you know they don't speak Spanish in Jamaica, right?

And keep working on it, that's great that you're learning!

Sure mon! Noooooo problem mon!

Thanks for the heads up. I speak it way better than I write it!

I thought the calling of an Apostle is a calling only God can give.

if churches can elect a pastor why can't an org elect an apostle??

Yeah ... yeah.

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I think drawing straws are in order bruh.

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First of all there never was a pastor odain/appointed over any congregation in the bible. Secondly all the elders that were appointed of a congregation were appointed by the evangelists. Not the congregation. The congregation are the ones that picked/chose the people to be elders!! The evangelists are the people that ordained/appointed them to that office. Not one verses were only one man was appointed/ordained as a pastor to be over a congregation. That was started by the catholic church. If you will study you will find that the word used for pastor in the begining was always transliterated sheperds accept one time it was transliterated as pastors. If this be wrong then you need to show me my mix understanding. To correct me.

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How many elders are in your congregation? How many people in your congregation picked you? Explaining the process of laying on hands and what did the apostle mean by the statement of lay hands on no man suddenly?

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Evang B. : ( 1. ) Are you asking if I have a congregation with elders?
I didn't think the post was about a certain person; but about the question of appointing ELDERS according to the Scriptures. It doesn't have anything to do with how a person believes or whether a person even has a congregation with or without ELDERS. It is what can be proced in the Scriptures of how to set in order the body of believers/the congregation.
I must ask you to first show the verse (s) where a pastor was ever ordained/appointed over a congregation ?
I Acts 6: 3-6. This is the first time of laying on of hands was used to ordain/appoint men to a certain duty. Then in Acts 14: and other books of the new covenant.
No person should be ordained to fulfill any office/duty of authority over another ; if that person not been proven of his understanding of the Scriptures for at least three years. This should get you started out to search about ELDERSover a congregation, instead of a pastor/high priest.
This as well should have answered your question about laying hands on a man suddenly. And scripture does state not to pray ; no not to anoint with oil and laying on of hands, to quickly.
I would like to read the verses that state the apostles ordained a pastor/high priest over a congregation or even as a table waiter or even as a busboy. There are other verses I would like to be showed as well. Like where and which one of the apostles told a person much less a congregation to given or pay him or a pastor a tithe. I have read the verse that states to have respect of one person over anyother is a sin. But you knew that already. Paul did state not to put yourself in a bind, burden, hardship to ease another.
No, I don't have a congregation muchless any ELDERS. And neither were there congregations as in the terms you an others are implying.
Did know if you were talking to me or about me. But that is my two cents worth.

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Most of their pastors are women?

Bwahahahahahahahahaha

Think a Jezebel spirit might be down there?

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I asked you a question, you are now refusing to answer my question. You made statements that there are no pastors ordained in scripture. I then asked you to tell us who you are in your assembly, congregation, church family or cult. Since you are stating the objection you are now making yourself the expert. You must then answer questions which are posed to you. You see, you claim to be the one who knows, by doing that it is you who is to be the one giving the answers. Was that clear enough for you?

Mr Tipton, is English your first language?

I asked you a question; how many elders are in your congregation? How many people in your congregation picked you? Explaining the process of laying on hands and what did the apostle mean by the statement of lay hands on no man suddenly?

There you go son, you want to play know it all, here's your chance.

Answer my questions. ;)

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EVANG B. I QUOTE YOU.

( E. B.) I asked you a question, you are now refusing to answer my question...


(D.T. )..I haven't refused to answer your ..questions...


( E. B. ) You made statements that there are no pastors ordained in scripture.


( D. T. )..As I stated. ..If there isn't a verse in the scriptures to prove were a person called a pastor was ever ordained/appointed. ..This proves that there wasn't one person called a pastor ordained/appointed...

You AREN'T satisfied with the answer the Scriptures prove. ..

This would intend to prove you are arrogant and willfully ignorant of the scriptures. ..Because you can't pover where one person called a pastor was ever ordained...

You are as all the men that call themselves a pastor. ..You are an angel of satan manifesting himself as an angel if light. .. Extorting all you can from the people you call your sheep, ..your flock, your congregation, ..your church. ..It is just a job to you people...


( E. B.) ..I then asked you to tell us who you are in your assembly, congregation, church family or cult...


( D. T. )..I told you I don't have a; as you call it a congregation or church. ..And definitely not a cult. ..As you have. ..Or should I state it as it is a dictatorship.

It matters not whether I have ..a congregation or not. ..Truth is given by just one person thru out the o. c. And by one in the n. c. With others as back ups. Any could give their discourse of their disagreement to the teachings if a prophet or a apostle. .. It was up to the apostle to prove the person making the objection wrong. By showing the scripture that poves it. You keep asking for the proof in scripture that poves no pastor was ordained. ..Yet you can't give one where one was ordained. .. Making your question moot. You ask questions for the sake of arguing...


( E. B ) Since you are stating the objection you are now making yourself the expert...


( D. T. ).... Just because a person ask a question or raises an objection to a matter in no wise makes that person an expert. ......just because a person quotes scripture. He isn't stating he is an expect. ..

..To show your of the stupidity of your questions. ..Then every student that ask a teach a question; is now the expert. And the teach should be instructed by the student. Or the apprentice that ask the master mechanic is this the right way it should be done. ..Is he now the master mechanic, that should be instructing others. By your understanding of objecting to what or how something is to be or is being done. Makes the person that brought up the objection/question; is now the only expert on the subject...

..If that was the case you are guilty of being an expert. Knowing you are raising the objection to the scriptures. Those verse that you can't find to pove your point of view of them.


( ..E. B. ) You must then answer questions which are posed to you. You see, you claim to be the one who knows, by doing that it is you who is to be the one giving the answers.


( D. T. ) ..I didn't say I was any thing. ..I did say I quote the Scriptures. ..And not me nor you can quote a verse that isn't in the Scriptures. ..Nor in the manuscripts...

..No, I don't have to answer any question posed to me. not really. ..No I only claim we d to quote the scriptures. And state what they do say. Where there aren't any verses to back a statement as to ordaina person as a pastor. Then I state that any person that teaches it is to be done is adding to scripture. And the plagues are added to them. And by having the plagues added to them their name has been taken from the book of life.

You are wrong about me stating I know. I only state the Scriptures. ..Just as the prophets and the apostles. ..I don't add to them as you do to be a pastor or to state that a pastor is to be over a congregation. ..The People that ask questions of the man called the Messiah and the apostles. ..Never were told to prove any of their objections. The apostles had to prove they were right. Just as you stating I have to prove my statement on no pastors were ever ordained. .. You have to prove you are right in your teach that they were at least one verse that backs your teaching. You haven't any much less one.

There were al ways more than one over the people of yahushua. From the sending of Moses and Aaron to the sending of the disciples and the apostles. ..Not even the man called Messiah came on the seen by himself. ..He had the man called john that was taged with the title john the Baptist. ..

You so called oneness apostolic misters are nothing but a wolf in sheeps clothing. ..Deceiving the people for your filthy lurce and a name among men.

Sence you object to the truth of Scripture. ..You prove to all that a pastor was ordained by one of the apostles. .. All the people that the apostles ordained were men. Not a woman in the lot. And they always a pointed/ordained more they obe over a group of followers, a congregation if you will. The man wouldn't even send obe man after the colt of a donkey Or to set upbthe upper room.

You men that call yourselves a pastor are nothing more than a high priest over a congregation of blind followers. ..You call your Wednesday night bible study. A time to be taught. ..No it us a night of dictatorship. ..From Moses through the apostles, ..they allowed people to ask questions and to debate with them about their teachings. ..You on the other hand won't allow o e person to ask you a question or to debate your expert authority of understanding the Scriptures. .. That just proves how ignorant and unlearn you truly are. ..Prove that you or any other man whether he is called a pastor, bishop or an elder. ..If he is he only person over that congregation he is a high priest over other priest. That is if you will believe peter.

You are required to answer all my questions. ..But as yet you haven't answered one. You can't give one verse to prove you are following the teachings of the apostles on: ..tithing, one man over the congregation, stating god put him over them ( the congregation ). Where are those verses to prove that pastors were appointed. ..Scripture states only elders were appointed over a congregation. None by the ay were paid a salary or tithes. .. Only the evangelists were given any thing. And only their necessities. ..Elders weren't given any thing much less a tithe. Knowing the Scriptures never supported the ordaining of a person called a pastor.

S this clear enough for you. ..Prove you are teaching truth. ..But I have an am teaching truth that you can't dis prove.


..Was that clear enough for you?

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Yep, you certainly did refuse to answer. Not only did you refuse to answer, but you went on and on, with some nonsensical drivel. Which wasn't only misspelled, but actually incoherent, and filled with a enough foolishness to embarrass the finest of Internet Trolls. You debate Oneness ministers? Who? When? How? Anyone would be shocked to read your blatherings, and think you were either a child or had the mind of one. Again, is English your second language?


But you never answered my questions? What are you afraid of? Lay hands on no man suddenly? What did that verse mean to the early church? Ordain elders in every city? Peter was an apostle, yet he called himself an elder. Dude you haven't the foggiest idea what that Bible is saying, but want to pass yourself off as some sort of defender of the faith? You need a pastor, and a church family. Instead of being Don Quixote looking around for a dragon in a windmill. :lol

Hoss, you haven't provided anything close to answering my questions concerning lay hands on no man suddenly. Ephesians 4:11 mention pastors in the plural, and these pastors are mentioned with apostles in the plural. Peter was an apostle by title and an elder by his own words 1 Peter 5:1. In Titus 1:5 , the Apostle Paul tells the Evangelist Timothy that it was Paul's decision to leave Timothy in Crete. No committee, no church board, no group of collegiate elders to parley with Paul. Paul states that it was his sole decision to leave Timothy in Crete to ORDAIN elders, which are clarified in Ephesians 4:11 what elders were made up from. Timothy is told he is to ORDAIN elders plural in EVERY city PLURAL. Deal with man, you loose.

What? Does this forum just attract the mentally insane? Or does the internet breed individuals who just love to Psychologically project on to others to reinforce their own cognitive dissonance?

So, let me get this straight, you are how old? You sit behind a computer screen, tell people they are of Satan, and write books against tithing that cost over 900.00? Seriously? Dan, again, do you attend a church? Do you have a church family? Are there other humans more than 10 who are not related to you? Who you meet with for prayer, communion, foot washing, worship, sharing the Word of God, and Bible study? Or are you the only one? An individual crusading on the internet with his own private Idaho?

No, you didn't tell me anything in the way of clarity. So, make it plain? Do you have more than 10 people who you meet with and do what you do so well? Are you the apostle? One of the elders? The butcher? The baker? or are you the candle stick maker?

But it does matter. It matters because it would show that you aren't some lone religious nut job. But, that you were a nut job who found other nut jobs to believe your mess. Not saying that you would have any credibility in my eyes, but that you weren't just sitting in your dirty underwear in a dark room only lit by a flatscreen monitor. You actually too your show on the road and were able to gather a group of brethren of like minds? A group not made up of your mother, father, sister, uncle Rico, and the cat.


Hoss, nay no, that's not what you are doing here. You are calling people devils. You are on an Apostolic forum hunting for Apostolics to instigate a quarrel. You are too use to the forum deal of trying to make everyone do the funky chicken for while they type out tomes of Bible answers for all of YOUR questions. Well, boy, since you are the one beating your chest and calling everyone a false prophet then you should be the one answering the questions and shucking the corn. Got it?

You don't know much do you? The Socratic method of teaching was not invented by Socrates. It was how all the ancients taught. The student was to ask questions of the teachers until the teachers ran out of answers. When that happened the student became like the teacher. It was employed by Jesus, as well as the sages and ancient Rabbis. But asking you questions is a waste of time. Because you are no teacher.

Hoss, your entire post was as clear as Ocala mud.

Go find a pastor and get off the internet.

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I might add that in the old manuscripts the word that you and your Catholic fathers transliterate as pastor was always translated sheperds. Not one time was the word in the singular. Always plural. Knowing your ignorance of Scripture is blinding your understanding. When there isn't a verse where a pastor was ordaibed . Then you must show where one is to be able to teach there is to be a pastor over a congregation. It is like you stating the only name that a person can use in baptism is the Catholic name of jesus. Whe paul states that Yahy shua spoke to him in the Hebrew tongue. And you should be asking your self why you and your fathers and you mother harlot of all her children. Refuses to use the first transliterated name from the 1380s that wycliffe used in his bible. The so-called Oneness apostolic ministers are the most illiterate of scripture I know of. To be stating they are the obly ibes that teach truth. Al other faiths teach lies. When they teach the very same things their mother the harlot of satan teaches. Text me a time you can call me to debate the truth. As my wife is sick and I don't answer the phone unless the number in on my call list. 16069756505. Just let me know first. But you are the one that refuses to accept truth . Where id the verse where an apostle ordain a pastor. Or taught tithing. If there isn't a verse then the argument is over and you haven't a leg to stand on. Just because the word pastor is in the transliterated version of the manuscripts doesn't mean it is truth or should be there. Just as verses 7, 8 of 1john chater 5. You know the verses that three th a t bear record in heaven and three that bear witness on earth. That aren't in in known manuscripts. Yet you so-called apostolics teach as if it were in the words of the apostles. You teach lies making you liars. You oervert the truth and dsmn yourself and others to hell .

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Dan, you have a passion for showing the forum how little you know. Dude, the Catholics didn't create language. Latin pastorem (nominative pastor) "shepherd," from pastus, past participle of pascere "to lead to pasture, set to grazing, cause to eat," has nothing to do with Catholics. It was the term used in ancient times for those who led a flock, or herd. Maybe you should find a minister who will take the time and effort to teach you?

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Old manuscripts? Which old manuscripts?

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I explained this, I showed how in Titus 1:5 Titus was to ordain elders (plural) in every (plural) city. How are you in math?

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What on earth is ordaibed?

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Paul said follow me (singular) as I follow Christ in a ministerial epistel. He didn't say follow US as WE follow Christ. This shows that Paul was able to lead or be over ministers. Titus 1:5 the Apostle Paul tells Titus that it was his decision to leave Titus in Crete. Not a church boards decision, or a college of elders decision. The the decision of one Apostle. That's Bible, which you can't answer.

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Catholic name? What Catholic name? Is Catholic a language where you come from? Does anyone speak the language called Catholic? Is there a language of Catholic? Where do people speak the Catholic language? Tipton, the name Jesus is Latin, it was on the written on the Cross. Above the head of Jesus. Three languages, Latin, Greek and Aramaic. Jesus spoke Aramaic, Greek, and most likely Latin. The New Testament was written entirely in Greek, the apostles and Jesus Christ quoted from the LXX, Septuagint, and an Aramaic copy of the Old Testament. Dan, do you speak Hebrew? How long have you studied Hebrew? Do you know what language Jesus spoke or His disciples? What was the language of Pontius Pilate? What was the language of the Syrophoenician woman? Why did Jesus use a Greek only phrase for ankle biting yapping dog when He referred to her? No Aramaic or Hebrew phrase exists. Dan Tipton you need a pastor and to pay him lots and lots of back tithing. :lol

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Then why did Paul write those words in Greek, and change the name to Iesous? Sorry, but for over 2,000 years the name was recorded as Jesus.
Not one New Testament document has your made up name. Yahshua, Yehoshua, Y'shua, Yeshua, Yahavashua, the list goes on and one with you Hebrew Only cultists.

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That what?

Did you crack open a six pack before you came on this forum? :throwrock

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Who is Al Other Faiths?

Was he your old pastor?

Well, you know what? Call Al Other Faiths and apologize to him. :laffatu

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If you have a congregation I will come and debate you openly infront of the whole congregation. Because you can state that paul left timothy in crete. But it was titus. So you make mistakes too. And as I have stated. The word pastor or pastors where translated as sheperd or sheperds. Only in one verse was that word transliterated pastors and that was in eph. Just as I stated just because a verse or verses are in a transliterated bible. In no way means tjose verses were in the manuscripts. As I gave john 5: 7,8. Even mr. D. K. Bernard and mr. I. Baxter as well as other. Mr. Bernard refuse to allow it in a debate he was have with a tinity. Now you can complain about me not have a good knowledge of the way to write as a man with 7 years of college. But you can't prove that a pastor is to be over a congregation. As for putting titles on a person trying to make your point. Is pur stupidity. You should have added the title missionary to the apostles. For they filled all these titles. They were sent ( a apostle ) an elder because they were with the Messiah from the beginning. A evangelist because they went to the congregations to set thing in order that were lacking and to ordain elders. If you have studied the word pastor. you would have known it was never translated as pastor in any other verses. Only in eph. You think I am nothing but an unlearned child. Be cause I don't write in the political ly correct way. Then have me come to your church. I an a ver good orator. I am as the those low class fishermen called apostles. They were uneducated as you would call them. I will give you and others to read and contradict. Beased soly on the way it is wrote.

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Your wife is sick and you surf forums to get into fights with people?

Good God from Zion!

What is wrong with you people?

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Dan, do you ever make mistakes? :)

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What manuscripts? Can you read and speak Greek?

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Known manuscripts? What known manuscripts? Can you read Greek?

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What is it to oervert the truth?

Titus and Timothy would like to know?

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God help Kentucky. :heeheehee

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This isn't being posted for Daniel Tipton of Kentucky, because he has lost his ever loving mind and is currently unteachable. But I thought this was interesting how food and pastor correlate.

Food (n.)

Middle English foode, fode, from Old English foda "food, nourishment; fuel," also figurative, from Proto-Germanic *fodon (source also of Swedish föda, Danish föde, Gothic fodeins), from Germanic *fod- "food," from PIE *pat-, extended form of root *pa- "to tend, keep, pasture, to protect, to guard, to feed" (source also of Greek pateisthai "to feed;" Latin pabulum "food, fodder," panis "bread," pasci "to feed," pascare "to graze, pasture, feed," pastor "shepherd," literally "feeder;" Avestan pitu- "food;" Old Church Slavonic pasti "feed cattle, pasture;" Russian pishcha "food").

Food-chain is from 1917. Food-poisoning attested by 1864; food-processor in the kitchen appliance sense from 1973; food-stamp (n.) is from 1962.

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I whish I knew where you where the pastor. I would put those sixty questions in the newspaper of thst town and ask you to prove my statements wrong. The only reason you did allow those sixty questions is you can't dispove my statements to those questions d. K. Bernard ask. I am going to do my best to locate that town and post them in the local paper.

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I didn't pick a fight. You did. I stated the Scriptures state evanelists ordained elders. And not a pastor. You are the one that started argueing . That scripture didn't say that. I ask you to quote kne verse where a pastor you know where just ine man was ever ordained over a congregation. And you haven't. Because there isn't any. And to do that you have to add to the Scriptures. And as far as my wife is concerned. She has dementia and I have to get some type of relief. I am the only caretaker for her and if you knew anything about that disease you would have understood why I get on the forum to try and let people that have a good mind learn the truth. But you are worse off than she will ever be. All have have to say is study out the 69 questions and learn truth. I will not cast pearls before a swine. No more from me you go start an argument with some fool as yourself.

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You didn't deal with any of my posts.

You are going to place an ad in the Newspaper?

You can't even spell? :lol