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This just gets more and more confusing! So now it turns out it wasn't a bikini. But did the pastor say, from the pulpit, that is was a bikini, or didn't he? About the other discrepancies, same question.

:groan

(I've been wanting to use that smilie...)

Who knows, Timmy. Things get pretty muddled after 97 pages, much less several years... :dunno

Timmy

07-16-2010 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 941137)

Thus, part of the reason he lost the law suit.

Ah. I see. Thanks.

(I have read probably less than 1/4 of this thread, which probably doesn't help matters. :lol)

Pressing-On

07-16-2010 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 941131)

This just gets more and more confusing! So now it turns out it wasn't a bikini. But did the pastor say, from the pulpit that is was a bikini, or didn't he? About the other discrepancies, same question.

The news article on page one of this thread reported him as saying that it was a bikini. So, I don't know what else anyone would have assumed it being.

The Defense Attorney made this comment,

We are considering with our client the various post-trial and appeal options that are available and think that further comment at this point would not be appropriate.”

So, if there is an appeal, we can know more.

missourimary

07-16-2010 11:36 AM

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Actually, as Baron pointed out earlier (oh, some 50 pages back, I don't want to go looking right now) an appeal would not bring out further information, but simply be a review by a judge of the facts found by the jury. (or something like that)

EDIT: hee hee Rule #1: Never misquote someone with a JD...

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 939813)

Just so your aware, in a jury trial juries determine what facts are true. In appeals, unless it is a de novo review, the facts are what the jury says they are and the only thing a judge can review on the appeal is the law. The facts, even if they are wrong, are what the jury determined in the first trial these are the facts that the judge(s) on appeal apply to the law. The law in the first trial was determined by the judge not the jury.

RandyWayne

07-16-2010 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 941140)

I tried not to assume it was ever a classic bikini because coming from the viewpoint of a conservative or UC, a woman wearing shorts is wearing a bikini, and thus a........ witchhhhhhh! ("May we burn her?")

Maybe someone should have asked Fogerty "Does a bikini float in water?".

Pressing-On

07-16-2010 11:39 AM

Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 941146)

That's a broadbrush, but it is funny, Randy! :toofunny

Timmy

07-16-2010 11:39 AM

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Time for a funny, true, relevant story?

Wife and I went to a hockey game a while back. The cheerleaders (known as the Ice Girls) have a couple of uniforms they use for different games. Here's a conversation, after a few minutes into the game.

Wife: I see the Girls are wearing their "short shorts" uniforms.

Me: Oh? I hadn't noticed.

Wife: Liar.

Me: :heeheehee

Wife: I like the other uniforms better, with the long pants.

Me: Me too.

But before she could say anything:

Me: Doh! That's two lies in a row! :heeheehee

Pressing-On

07-16-2010 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by missourimary (Post 941144)

I got the impression that the attorney was more focused on the separation of church and state than the facts that were settled on.

RandyWayne

07-16-2010 11:41 AM

Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 941147)

That's a broadbrush, but it is funny, Randy! :toofunny

If it is then just the very edges of the brush that are missing the mark. :)

The next question asked of Fogerty, "So what else besides Bikini's float in water?"

Pressing-On

07-16-2010 11:42 AM

Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 941151)

If it is then just the very edges of the brush are missing the mark. :)

The next question asked of Fogerty, "So what else besides Bikini's float in water?"

If he hasn't seen Caddyshack, he won't have all the answers. :toofunny

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