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RandyWayne 07-16-2010 11:14 AM

Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
 
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Originally Posted by missourimary (Post 941114)
For all who are interested, http://spiritualabuse.org/experience...k_fogarty.html has posted clarifications to our assumptions on this board.

From that site, apparently they contacted Angela's attorney and got the following information:
Angela did not file the divorce. James did. Angela didn't want the divorce, and James filed for irreconcilable differences.
Regarding the ever popular bikini incident, it happened years before the divorce, had nothing to do with the divorce, James never mentioned it or any concern for Angela's faithfulness in the divorce. She and another woman were swimming. The other woman's husband came and Angela left. She was in a onepiece, not a bikini.

Sounds like the gossip got just a tad out of control.


PO, regarding the assumption on request for relief, here is a link to the original complaint. http://www.13wmaz.com/news/PDF/driver_complaint.pdf

Ahhhhh haaaaaaa (Of course I always knew/strongly suspected that there were more people involved in the bikini incident and that Fogerty and the husband wanted it to look at as bad as possible with the maximum amount of innuendo.)

Well, I guess we can still nail her to the cross for not SUB-mittttttt(ing) <spit>.

Pressing-On 07-16-2010 11:18 AM

Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by missourimary (Post 941114)
For all who are interested, http://spiritualabuse.org/experience...k_fogarty.html has posted clarifications to our assumptions on this board.

From that site, apparently they contacted Angela's attorney and got the following information:
Angela did not file the divorce. James did. Angela didn't want the divorce, and James filed for irreconcilable differences.
Regarding the ever popular bikini incident, it happened years before the divorce, had nothing to do with the divorce, James never mentioned it or any concern for Angela's faithfulness in the divorce. She and another woman were swimming. The other woman's husband came and Angela left. She was in a onepiece, not a bikini.

Sounds like the gossip got just a tad out of control.

Thanks for the additional information which wasn't listed in the first post of this thread. The news article stated it was a "bikini". Don't know how we would know otherwise unless the information was originally reported correctly. It was not.

I don't know who posted that she was the Plaintiff in the divorce. It appears she was not. Thanks for that as well.


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PO, regarding the assumption on request for relief, here is a link to the original complaint. http://www.13wmaz.com/news/PDF/driver_complaint.pdf
Yes, I did read this earlier.

"Plaintiff has incurred medical expenses which exceed $300 (and will continue to increase) for counseling and will continue to incur expenses for counseling and prescription medication in the future as a result of anxiety, depression and emotional distress from Rev. Fogarty's statements."

After receiving all of the correct information, I will now, wholeheartedly, side with the court's verdict. :thumbsup

missourimary 07-16-2010 11:23 AM

Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 941117)
Well, I guess we can still nail her to the cross for not SUB-mittttttt(ing) <spit>.

Yeah. After all, she didn't wear hose everytime she left the house. (according to the new info on www.spiritualabuse.org)

Good grief. I think the UPC had better hurry along with a resolution to vote that every member SHOULD have a television in their homes. Maybe that would hinder the Pentecostal grapevine and the entertainment derived from such gossip. Ah, except the verse says "I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes". It doesn't say anything in the passage about what garbage is being filtered in through the ears. *sigh*


(NO, I am not referring to Bro Fogarty in this regard, but to everyone who assumed way too much both before and after the lawsuit... especially those who may have given him such wrongful information to begin with and those on this site who've so aptly demonstrated how quickly assumptions can get out of hand.)

Esther 07-16-2010 11:24 AM

Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
 
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 941117)
Ahhhhh haaaaaaa (Of course I always knew/strongly suspected that there were more people involved in the bikini incident and that Fogerty and the husband wanted it to look at as bad as possible which the maximum amount of innuendo.)

Well, I guess we can still nail her to the cross for not SUB-mittttttt(ing) <spit>.

Wow I did not realize this was a Houston church.

missourimary 07-16-2010 11:25 AM

Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
 
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 941119)
Thanks for the additional information which wasn't listed in the first post of this thread. The news article stated it was a "bikini". Don't know how we would know otherwise unless the information was originally reported correctly. It was not.

I think the news reports only stated what Bro Fogarty was recorded as having said. They were not referring to any actual or proven event.

Pressing-On 07-16-2010 11:26 AM

Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by missourimary (Post 941121)
Yeah. After all, she didn't wear hose everytime she left the house. (according to the new info on www.spiritualabuse.org)

Good grief. I think the UPC had better hurry along with a resolution to vote that every member SHOULD have a television in their homes. Maybe that would hinder the Pentecostal grapevine and the entertainment derived from such gossip. Ah, except the verse says "I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes". It doesn't say anything in the passage about what garbage is being filtered in through the ears. *sigh*


(NO, I am not referring to Bro Fogarty in this regard, but to everyone who assumed way too much both before and after the lawsuit... especially those who may have given him such wrongful information to begin with and those on this site who've so aptly demonstrated how quickly assumptions can get out of hand.)

I believe most everyone was going off of the news article posted on page one of this thread, MM.

missourimary 07-16-2010 11:26 AM

Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
 
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Originally Posted by Esther (Post 941122)
Wow I did not realize this was a Houston church.

Not Houston TX. There is a Houston County, GA, although that wasn't where the case was heard, either. It's a GA event.

Pressing-On 07-16-2010 11:28 AM

Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
 
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Originally Posted by missourimary (Post 941124)
I think the news reports only stated what Bro Fogarty was recorded as having said. They were not referring to any actual or proven event.

The point is that is was written in the news article and most were going off of that, as I stated. "One of the reasons the pastor gave....." - That appears that he stated this in court, so we were going off of that information.

It is all cleared up and that is fine.

Timmy 07-16-2010 11:29 AM

Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
 
This just gets more and more confusing! So now it turns out it wasn't a bikini. But did the pastor say, from the pulpit, that is was a bikini, or didn't he? About the other discrepancies, same question.

RandyWayne 07-16-2010 11:31 AM

Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 941131)
This just gets more and more confusing! So now it turns out it wasn't a bikini. But did the pastor say, from the pulpit, that is was a bikini, or didn't he? About the other discrepancies, same question.

Thus, part of the reason he lost the law suit.


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