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Esther 04-17-2014 03:47 PM
Re: The Question No One Can Answer
 
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Originally Posted by NotforSale (Post 1308304)
What will happen to people when they die? Not one person here, there, or anywhere can answer this question. You can say until you're blue in the face that you know, but you don't.

Every Religion claims to know, and the Afterlife has become the Benchmark of manipulation within these Religions to control people with ideas that cannot be proven.

Over the Millenniums of time, we have watched this process evolve from not knowing, to knowing, yet nothing has really changed accept Religion. And Religion has learned, when there are no more chips left on the table, there is one left no one can see but them, called, the Afterlife.

It's Religions Ace in the Hole! The Grand Finale! The Last Straw! The Perfect Ploy to control the Weak with Fear! It's The Feast and Table Spread of the Superstitious!
This post Leads me to think you would not believe Their answer.

KeptByTheWord 04-18-2014 04:22 PM
Re: The Question No One Can Answer
 
NotForSale:

I have a question.... when a seed is put into the ground, it is dried, shriveled up, and lifeless. How can something that is dead, begin to produce life?

votivesoul 04-19-2014 02:24 AM
Re: The Question No One Can Answer
 
You got me pegged, NFS.

I am a slave to Christ through the will of God. I am bound to the pure and un-defiled religion of visiting and comforting widows and orphans in their affliction and in keeping myself un-spotted in the world.

Now let me see if I can peg you?

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1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds; )
9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
11 Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.
12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;
14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.
17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

ILG 04-19-2014 08:48 AM
Re: The Question No One Can Answer
 
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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1309109)
NotForSale:

I have a question.... when a seed is put into the ground, it is dried, shriveled up, and lifeless. How can something that is dead, begin to produce life?
Is a seed really dead?

FlamingZword 04-19-2014 10:06 AM
Re: The Question No One Can Answer
 
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Originally Posted by NotforSale (Post 1308985)
Yeah, it's so sad to see all of the lies in Christianity. You tell Christians the truth, and they still continue down the path of ideas that cannot be proven.

The worst form of Truth, is a Truth that cannot be measured.
This is the sad truth.
because you received not the love of the truth, that you might be saved. for this cause God sent you a strong delusion, that you should believe a lie: That you might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (Paraphrased)

Bye enjoy this life for that is all you will have.
what are you doing wasting your time with us? go and enjoy your life to the maximum for this is all the happiness you will have.

Timmy 04-19-2014 10:13 AM
Re: The Question No One Can Answer
 
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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1309109)
NotForSale:

I have a question.... when a seed is put into the ground, it is dried, shriveled up, and lifeless. How can something that is dead, begin to produce life?
I can't even.

NotforSale 04-19-2014 04:42 PM
Re: The Question No One Can Answer
 
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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1309109)
NotForSale:

I have a question.... when a seed is put into the ground, it is dried, shriveled up, and lifeless. How can something that is dead, begin to produce life?
I am a horticulturist, and seeds are alive. They can also die if they are not stored properly, or they are exposed to extremes. If they die, the seed will not germinate.

"A seed is a living, respiring organism, despite usually appearing inert or even dead. To remain alive, the embryo must have access to food and oxygen. Eventually if it runs out of food or is subjected to physical damage, including attack by insects or fungi, it will die. If you want the seed to be sown to produce another plant, a dead seed is of no value whatever."

http://aseeds.net.au/9-faqs/general/...w-does-it-work

NotforSale 04-19-2014 04:50 PM
Re: The Question No One Can Answer
 
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Originally Posted by votivesoul (Post 1309147)
You got me pegged, NFS.

I am a slave to Christ through the will of God. I am bound to the pure and un-defiled religion of visiting and comforting widows and orphans in their affliction and in keeping myself un-spotted in the world.

Now let me see if I can peg you?
I'm not surprised that you are a Slave to Religion, a very sad bondage. You can't be bound to anything pure or undefiled here on Earth, because there is no such thing.

You also can't keep yourself unspotted from the World because you were born in sin and shapen in iniquity. There are none righteous…and Paul said:

"For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do."

NotforSale 04-19-2014 05:03 PM
Re: The Question No One Can Answer
 
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Originally Posted by FlamingZword (Post 1309167)
This is the sad truth.
because you received not the love of the truth, that you might be saved. for this cause God sent you a strong delusion, that you should believe a lie: That you might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (Paraphrased)

Bye enjoy this life for that is all you will have.
what are you doing wasting your time with us? go and enjoy your life to the maximum for this is all the happiness you will have.
That's exactly what the Jews believed. They lived this life to the fullest, as this was a gift from God. To behold this truth is truly beautiful, as the fatalist attitude is destroyed and a true compassion for humanity is developed.

Love for the truth? Let me get this strait, you're the one who "Thinks" they know what awaits us in the Afterlife, yet, you don't know and tell others that you do!

As you can see in my Profile picture, I am a very happy man with my wife of 34 years. I have 3 grown children, 6 grandchildren, and numerous other Family members that I have reconnected with after my deliverance from Religion. I have gone to them in repentance for my dogmatic past of condemning, and many tears have been shed, and relationships restored.

I do love the truth, and that truth has set me free from the bondage of someones idea that causes division and hate, not love, support, and grace for the weak.

So, go ahead with your Spectral Ideas that you cannot prove are true, and maybe one day, you'll see the light that is staring you right in the face, called, "You Don't Know!"

votivesoul 04-20-2014 12:29 AM
Re: The Question No One Can Answer
 
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Originally Posted by NotforSale (Post 1309208)
I'm not surprised that you are a Slave to Religion, a very sad bondage. You can't be bound to anything pure or undefiled here on Earth, because there is no such thing.

You also can't keep yourself unspotted from the World because you were born in sin and shapen in iniquity. There are none righteous…and Paul said:

"For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do."
So you're calling James, the brother of the Lord Jesus, who, in the Hebrew tongue was known as a Tzaddik, a liar?


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