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The Law was plain about not working or doing things on the Sabbath. Jesus broke the Law. We can get so side-tracked by the precepts we miss the mission. That's all I'm saying. I have friends who agree with you, and that's why I enjoy hearing your arguments and points. |
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A prophecy is the message that has been communicated to a prophet[1] which the prophet then communicates to others. In general, this message can involve divine inspiration, revelation, or interpretation. More specifically, it may be a professed psychic prediction. Confusion often exists between the word "prophecy" (noun) and "to prophesy" (verb). A memory phrase to help distinguish between "prophecy" (pronounced with the long e sound as in "see") and "prophesy" (pronounced with the long i sound as in "sigh"): "When a prophet prophesies he or she utters prophecies."[2]
The concept is found throughout the religions of the world. (wikipedia) |
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Yes, this is getting more and more comical. Spicing the thread up for a moment, I suppose. I ask again: what are your hermeneutic credentials? Maybe we should get back to your primary list of points. Things were going better that way. It was when you got puffy-chested and thought you were the Great AFF Scholar, but started throwing out words you didn't understand, and saying things that were categorically false. |
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The Christian prophet is a "spokesman for God," much as Aaron was for Moses before Pharaoh (Ex 4:15-17; 7:1),[11] one who speaks what he hears by revelation rather than from his own mind.
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Now, The Law of First Mention basically affirms [quoting from memory since I'm in the library] that the 1st time a phenomena/subject is mentioned in Scripture, every subsequesnt reference will relate back to this foundational experience as its model/paradigm. The 1st time that we someone "filled with the Holy Spirit" in the NT church is in Acts chp. 2, "And they were ALL filled with the Holy Spirit, and spoke in other tongues as the Spirit of God gave the utterance." Tell us Jeffrey, should we expect the same results today as those initial recipients, or do we receive it in another way? And what's your Scriptural justification? Spare me I Cor. 14, as this is easily shown "flawed"! Not a cop out, but have to go. Been here for about 2 hrs. now, have things to do 2nite. Look back soon, so far nothing but scorn. If you want to advance the conversation, I suggest you tone down your rhetoric. |
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Listen to these words of an atheist:
Were I a religionist, did I truly, firmly, consistently believe, as millions say they do, that the knowledge and the practice of religion in this life influences the destiny in another, the Spirit of truth be my witness, religion should be to me everything. I would cast aside earthly enjoyments as dross, earthly cares as follies, and earthly thoughts and feelings as less than vanity. Religion should be my first waking thought, and my last image when sleep sunk me in unconsciousness. I would labor in her cause alone. I would not labor for the meat that perisheth, not for the treasure on earth, where moth and rust corrupts, and thieves break through and steal; but only for a crown of glory in heavenly regions. Where treasure and happiness are alike beyond the reach of time or chance. I would take thought for eternity alone. I would esteem one soul gained to heaven worth a life of suffering. There should be neither worldly prudence nor calculating circumstance in my engrossing zeal. Earthly consequences should never stay my hand or seal my lips. I would speak to the imagination, awaken the feelings, stir up the passions, and arouse the fancy. Earth, its joys and its griefs, should occupy no moments of my thoughts; for these are but the affairs of a portion of eternity, and on the immortal souls around me, soon to be everlastingly miserable or everlastingly happy. I would deem all who thought only of this world, merely seeking to increase temporal happiness, and laboring to obtain temporal goods, pure madmen. I would go forth to the world and preach to it, in season and out of season; and my text should be, “What shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?” (A.S. Ormsby, in Alone with God) sad that an atheist would do whatmany christians will not do.... |
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Carest Thou Not? (Amy Carmichael)
The tom-toms thumped all night, and the darkness shuddered all around me like a living, feeling thing. I could not sleep, so I lay awake and looked; and I saw, At my feet a precipice broke sheer down into infinite space. I looked, but saw no bottom; only cloud shapes, and unfathomable depths. I saw streams of people flowing from all quarters. All were blind, stone blind; all made straight for the precipice edge. There were shrieks as they suddenly knew themselves were falling, and a tossing up of arms, catching, clutching at empty air. Some went over quietly without a sound. Then I saw along the edge there were sentries set at intervals, but the intervals were too great. The people fell in their blindness, quite unwarned; and a gulf yawned like the mouth of hell. Then I saw a group of people under some trees, with their backs turned towards the gulf. They were making daisy chains. Sometimes when a piercing scream reached them it disturbed them, and they thought it a rather vulgar noise. And if one of their number wanted to go and do something to help, then all the others would pull that one down. “Why should you get so excited about it? You must wait for a definite call to go! You haven’t finished your daisy chain yet.” There was another group. It was made up of people whose great desire was to get more sentries out; but they found that very few wanted to go, and sometimes there were no sentries set for miles and miles of the edge. Once a girl stood alone in her place, waving the people back; but her mother and other relatives called, and reminded her that her furlough was due. No one was sent to guard her gap, and over and over the people fell like a waterfall of souls. Then they sang a hymn. There came another sound of a million broken hearts wrung out in one full drop, one sob. And a horror of darkness was upon me, for I knew what it was. It was the cry of blood. Then thundered the voice of the Lord, “What hast thou done? The voice of thy brother’s blood crieth unto me from the ground.” The tom-toms beat heavily, the darkness still shuddered and shivered about me: I heard the yells of the devil-dancers and weird shrieks of the devil possessed just outside the gate. What does it matter after all? It has gone on for years; it will go on for years. Why make such a fuss about it? God forgive us! God arouse us! Shame on us for our sin! Help us reach these multiplied millions around the world with the Gospel through the printed page, before they go into a Christ less eternity. |
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MUST run........will deal w/ you later [but would prefer to stick to the text]....LORD willing. |
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