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Jesus’ friends did not meet the religious standards of the Pharisees for His friends were unlearned fishermen, the tax collector, the adulterous woman, the Samaritan woman. But it was to these and others like these that Jesus pointed down roads of time and said, "Go unto all the world and preach...Go, and tell that I have risen."

Let’s go back to Paul referring to the Talmud. No doubt Paul was citing from a letter received from the people at the church of Corinth and he quoted or recited a part of it. You may say how strange. Not really. He did the same thing in Athens. If he agreed, he told it, if he didn’t agree, he told us this also.

Notice once again, I Timothy 2:11-12 where we read again the word silence. This time its usage is different than in I Corinthians 14. This time in Greek it means quietness, humility. We all agree that a meek and quiet spirit is beautiful. We do believe that woman has domestic duties, and before she can be a preacher, she must obey her domestic duties according to the Bible; just as a man has domestic duties and it he doesn’t provide for his family, he too is not qualified to preach the gospel.

A holy woman of God would not think of being disobedient and unruly. I Timothy 2:15: Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. In the Greek it says giving birth would save her.

The birth of our Savior came through a woman. He was made of a woman, something happened to a woman that never happened to a man. She carried in her womb the Holiest of Holies for nine months; the Ark of the Covenant was in her body. The only time the glory was ever encased in flesh outside the deity was by a virgin named Mary. For the Bible says, "that holy thing" that holy thing was the New Testament Ark of the Covenant.


We are living in the first fruits generation where we are experiencing a part of the glorious liberty that will be for all women. In the millennium there will be neither male nor female, we will all have glorified bodies like the angels. Sons of God, children of the resurrection, male and female, overcomes, reigning with him just like his original plan. Just like the Garden of Eden.

Complete liberty will be in the millennium; we have the first fruits of it now! May God forgive each one that may think those verses in Corinthians quoted from the Talmud represents the law of God for women in this dispensation. John 8:36: If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

In contrast with the many passages that portray male disciples as lacking faith, the gospels contain only positive images of women with the single exception of Herodias.

Jesus saw everyone as "individuals not valuable males, and valueless females. It seems Jesus was gender blind! It’s important to note that in Matthew and Mark the angel of the Lord sent the women to tell the male disciples that Jesus had risen. And in Matthew and John, Jesus Himself sent them on the mission. The woman acted for Him as an apostle or as ones that are sent to bear witness of the gospel.

Preachers who oppose women preaching the gospel are guilty of preaching the Talmud, i.e. the Kabbalah. It is the Kabbalah that view Jews as a superior race and the male as the superior sex.

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I still remember many years ago a little village where we had gone to have service for the first time. After I had explained the plan of salvation and used the words that those that do not obey will be eternally lost, a little woman
raised her hand and said, "Missionary, my mother died three months ago; She never heard; will she be lost?"
It’s a shame that anyone would try to close the mouth of a woman. Crucial issues are at stake when a preachers mouth is shut. Will we lapse into the stifling silence to the point that souls are lost? Will we champion the oppression of women by calling it “God's will?"

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and now maybe I should hide out in the jungle...

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At this moment I am sitting in a church service, my laptop is open to many thing including AFF...beside me is sitting a pastor...a man that used to be a witchdoctor with his sweet wife, a prophetess. Both he and his wife kissed me on the cheek and said, thank you for preaching to us about Jesus so many years ago...
I am thankful that God sent me to a wonderful people that came to know Him and now they are going all over this vast country.

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I really don't know if they can Pastor

But they sure know how to minister.

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DeepThinker I like that

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Sis. Alvear,
You have done a very good job of explaining that Paul was quoting from tradition or oral law in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 in order to refute it in verses 36-40. Not many people see it this way but that is the way I have understood it since back in 1959 when I heard it taught on a reel to reel tape by the late Gordon Magee. He quoted some of the same things you did from the oral law or traditions of the elders.

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Brother John Scheel has an awesome book on this subject. If I am not mistaken his thesis at oxford was on Women Preachers.

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Thank You, my friend...I took a course many years ago that included his teachings. I used to be able to quote his tape verbatim!

I am not at home but at home I have many notes that I have taken over the years from History books, etc on women in ministry...Pentecost would have been in a fix without the early women who traveled and preached.

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Sis Alvear

Keep doing what God has shown you to do. Man and his traditions will not judge us. I have always been taught that if we have a seemingly contradiction in the scriptures it is because we are not interpreting them right. There is only one way to get through to some and that is just pray for them. If they truly have the spirit of God, God can show them better than we can.
God Bless the work you are doing
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