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Why is a gathering time different than sharing a meal with another believer, DM?

What, in your mind, is so significant about the gathering?

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DM, your use of Leviticus would also mean women who are at "that time" should stay at home, excluded from the rest of the house because that's also "unclean."

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I haven't been taught this, it is what I understand from reading Leviticus. I'm surprised that more people don't see that, but obviously some do.

Yes God is all seeing and all knowing but he doesn't manifest in all situations. I am talking about entering the manifest presence of God. I don't believe God would manifest if we are not in the spirit.

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As was mentioned before - - the curtain was torn......he manifest himself in us now - - not just special times.

What do you mean by "in the spirit?"

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Rolling his tongue...

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DM,

Unless you are going to follow the ceremonial law completely, then I see no reason why you can't go to church on the same day you have sex.

Obviously you realize that there are other situations in which people are declared unclean according to ceremonial law. Right? Did you get the part about women having to stay home?

Essentially, following ceremonial law will dictate that you can't have sex with your wife more than about half a month, and even less for you if you skip Sundays and maybe even Wednesdays.

Either follow ceremonial law or don't. It's silly to pick and choose. IMO, this doesn't apply to the NT church. I see nothing reflecting it in the NT. I also referenced the very relevant passage that states husbands and wives can abstain from sex for a time, but only with the permission of their spouse. If God thought it was wrong for couples to have sex on church days, why did God leave it up to the couple as to whether or not they abstain for the sake of prayer and fasting?

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In the spirit means prayed up, focused on God, in worship mode. I don't think that going to church in the same frame of mind as going shopping, though we can walk in the spirit and God can manifest outside of church but not during intercourse. I think there is a difference between having the HG in you and entering the manifest presence of God. That is all I'm saying.

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DM:

It's one thing if you feel distracted and want to abstain from sex so you can be more focused on what you feel are more spiritual pursuits. According to the NT, as long as your wife is also okay with this abstinence on Sundays, then you're free to abstain.

However, it's quite another to try to bring OT law into it and act like it somehow applies. It does not apply to the NT church, but if you DO want to follow ceremonial law, then follow it all. Don't pick and choose just to support one little thing you feel uncomfortable about.

Get permission from your wife, and then skip sex whenever she says its okay. If your wife likes Sunday afternoon "naps", then your first biblical obligation is to meet her needs.

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Miss Bratt, you make some good points, but I am not advocating following ceremonial law. I just think that we can learn some wisdom from that law and know that abstaining from sex and being in the spirit is conducive to experience the manifest presence of God which imo is different from having the HG in you at all times. It's just a nugget of wisdom, not a law that we should follow.

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The problem is, when you bring ceremonial law into it, it makes it sound like you're making the case for it to be WRONG across the board. This is really up to couples, whether they make a choice like this. In your case, it's up to you and your wife, and according to the NT you don't have the right to deny your wife sex unless she okays it--on any day of the week, and even for something so noble as prayer and fasting.