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Rachel 12-22-2007 08:38 AM
Usually.. I might have piped up once or twice too!

Felicity 12-22-2007 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by D&J (Post 334940)
Agreed!!

I am so thankful for grandfathers on both sides of my family that were men who walked with God!!

And my Mom and Dad are both awesome people!! My Dad is a walking Bible and also a walking history book!!!

:horn
It's good to be thankful and to recognize the blessings and advantages that come from having such a rich Christian heritage.

My dad's family were all Baptist. Devout. My mom won my dad to Pentecost through witnessing to him. I've read a lot of the letters that went back and forth between them while they were dating. Very interesting! Mom was quite the preacher! :) Dad never really had an experience with God until after, through mom's witness and influence, he started attending a Pentecostal church.

My mom was the one who brought her sisters and mother into Pentecost. They, unlike she though, never accepted the Oneness message.

Felicity 12-22-2007 09:17 AM
Snowing here! The view out my back window here is beautiful!

Mrs. LPW 12-22-2007 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Felicity (Post 334982)
Snowing here! The view out my back window here is beautiful!
Do you have much snow?
We're supposed to get rain for Christmas here.

Truly Blessed 12-22-2007 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by D&J (Post 334940)
Agreed!!

I am so thankful for grandfathers on both sides of my family that were men who walked with God!!

And my Mom and Dad are both awesome people!! My Dad is a walking Bible and also a walking history book!!!

:horn
Your dad's love of history and his knowledge of history so impressed me in Bible School and peaked my own interest in history. I just wish I had his memory for retaining what I read!

Felicity 12-22-2007 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 335013)
Do you have much snow?
We're supposed to get rain for Christmas here.
It's snowing hard right now. We probably have about 2 inches on the ground. A park borders our house at the back and the trees look so beautiful with a heavy coating of snow.

It's supposed to turn to rain later I guess.

I always hated 'green' Christmases back home. Just didn't seem like Christmas without snow. And snow on Christmas Eve and Christmas day was perfect.

D&J 12-22-2007 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Truly Blessed (Post 335025)
Your dad's love of history and his knowledge of history so impressed me in Bible School and peaked my own interest in history. I just wish I had his memory for retaining what I read!

True, very true...

He is always calling me and quoting stuff he read years ago, it is amazing!! That trait did not get on me :christmoose

D&J 12-22-2007 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 335013)
Do you have much snow?
We're supposed to get rain for Christmas here.

So are we... you must be quite close to us here???

Rachel 12-22-2007 12:49 PM
Yeah. Pretty close. ;)

Mrs. LPW 12-22-2007 09:43 PM
Big city folks, we is

Truly Blessed 12-23-2007 09:10 AM
Have a fantastic day everyone!

Maple Leaf 12-23-2007 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Truly Blessed (Post 335648)
First of all, I want to say that I enjoy creative, interpretive dance. I have been deeply moved on so many occasions while watching interpretive dance in worship.

However, I wondered as I watched this if an apology has been given to churches like Smythe Street Cathedral who have been criticized for years for having interpretive dance as part of their worship service. The difference that I observe is that the UPC churches tend to like songs that are more of a rock and roll style that has lots of energy, whereas most creative dance I have seen is slower and tend to have more elegant, professional dance routines. Perhaps that will come as this ministry develops.

I applaud CCC for introducing interpretive dance to their worship. Dance was intended to be very much a part of our worship of God. I don't believe the dance mentioned in scripture is what most Pentecostal churches have and call "shockamoo". God is a creative and orderly God, not one of chaos and confusion.

There's my ramblings for the day. :)
I imported this thread because of its Canadian content.

I also enjoy liturgical dance, if done well.

I enjoyed the energy of Monkeyman's team - it was great!

[YT="The Presense of The Lord is here!"]6MEhMa2hwbQ[/YT]

I grew up in Fredericton when Smythe Street was the "talk of the town," but if we apologized to everybody for our changing ideas every time an idea changed, we'd not have any time to preach the Gospel.

Imitation is still the sincerest form of flattery, and probably the best apology.

Maple Leaf 12-23-2007 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Truly Blessed (Post 335638)
Have a fantastic day everyone!
And you as well, Pastor Blessed.

You must be having a quieter than usual Christmas - Christmas is hectic in the pastorate, but a happy hectic.

You'll be missing the grandchildren this Christmas, but Bro. Mike is grinning over having them home.

The Senator 12-23-2007 10:54 AM
I worshipped at Smythe Street Cathedral back in the early sixties when it was still known as the Argyle Street Pentecostal Church. There was dancing but no choreographed dancers.

Mrs. LPW 12-23-2007 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Maple Leaf (Post 335661)
I imported this thread because of its Canadian content.

I also enjoy liturgical dance, if done well.

I enjoyed the energy of Monkeyman's team - it was great!

[YT="The Presense of The Lord is here!"]6MEhMa2hwbQ[/YT]

I grew up in Fredericton when Smythe Street was the "talk of the town," but if we apologized to everybody for our changing ideas every time an idea changed, we'd not have any time to preach the Gospel.

Imitation is still the sincerest form of flattery, and probably the best apology.
I have never seen the Smythe Street interpretive dances... so I'm not commenting on those, but I was to an event recently where there was a choreographed dance to a popular worship song. It wasn't mostly sign, with modestly dressed young people filled with the Holy Ghost themselves doing it... it was a secular dance troupe, dressed in tight form fitted ballet outfits doing a dance that in some parts was provocative.

I still can't agree with just anything being done in the name of worship...

Maple Leaf 12-23-2007 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 335684)
I have never seen the Smythe Street interpretive dances... so I'm not commenting on those, but I was to an event recently where there was a choreographed dance to a popular worship song. It wasn't mostly sign, with modestly dressed young people filled with the Holy Ghost themselves doing it... it was a secular dance troupe, dressed in tight form fitted ballet outfits doing a dance that in some parts was provocative.

I still can't agree with just anything being done in the name of worship...
"Sign," as in sign language for the deaf?

I have never seen liturgical dancers that were immodest or provocative - I'm agin' being either immodest or provocative in the name of the Lord.

I have seen liturgical dancers who were modest, extraordinarily well choreographed and whose worship was very beautiful.

This is a difficult discussion because it has a video attached to it, a video clip of some great young people praising the Lord in a very expressive manner.

Liturgical dancing under the banner of "sign" is a whole separate discussion.

Maple Leaf 12-23-2007 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 335684)
I still can't agree with just anything being done in the name of worship...

On this we certainly agree.

TRIPLE E 12-23-2007 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Maple Leaf (Post 335661)
I imported this thread because of its Canadian content.

I also enjoy liturgical dance, if done well.

I enjoyed the energy of Monkeyman's team - it was great!

[YT="The Presense of The Lord is here!"]6MEhMa2hwbQ[/YT]

I grew up in Fredericton when Smythe Street was the "talk of the town," but if we apologized to everybody for our changing ideas every time an idea changed, we'd not have any time to preach the Gospel.

Imitation is still the sincerest form of flattery, and probably the best apology.
I have to say this song ,sung the way it was is an all-time favorite of mine.If I were a few years younger and a few pounds lighter I'd be right up there joinin -em!

Mrs. LPW 12-23-2007 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Maple Leaf (Post 335712)
"Sign," as in sign language for the deaf?

I have never seen liturgical dancers that were immodest or provocative - I'm agin' being either immodest or provocative in the name of the Lord.

I have seen liturgical dancers who were modest, extraordinarily well choreographed and whose worship was very beautiful.

This is a difficult discussion because it has a video attached to it, a video clip of some great young people praising the Lord in a very expressive manner.

Liturgical dancing under the banner of "sign" is a whole separate discussion.
Yes, that's my church as well as Monkeyman's.
They don't do much by way of dance, they do what they call interpretive sign... not all of it is official sign language. All the ladies wear the same "flowy-ishing" tops so there is no immodesty.

That is (correct me if I'm wrong anyone from CCC) the most upbeat song they do. Most of their songs are slower, and are mostly hand movement and expression and some acting... That's the one song they move around more on. They are under the umbrella of drama team. The "sticks" are as well.

Maple Leaf 12-23-2007 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 335735)
Yes, that's my church as well as Monkeyman's.
They don't do much by way of dance, they do what they call interpretive sign... not all of it is official sign language. All the ladies wear the same "flowy-ishing" tops so there is no immodesty.

That is (correct me if I'm wrong anyone from CCC) the most upbeat song they do. Most of their songs are slower, and are mostly hand movement and expression and some acting... That's the one song they move around more on. They are under the umbrella of drama team. The "sticks" are as well.
Very interesting.

Would I be correct to say that Interpretive Sign involves hand movements, and is to be distinguished from Interpretive Dance which is more whole bodied?

Please understand that I am in no way critical of either signing or dancing, but am curious about the concept of Interpretive Sign?

Maple Leaf 12-23-2007 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TRIPLE E (Post 335724)
I have to say this song ,sung the way it was is an all-time favorite of mine.If I were a few years younger and a few pounds lighter I'd be right up there joinin -em!
We'll have to get together a major UPBI reunion bash and show the youngsters how to get down with style. The world needs to see a bunch of overweight aging baby boomers doing the boogie-woogie for Jesus.

BoredOutOfMyMind 12-23-2007 02:03 PM
Ahhhhh, even in Canada, threads evolve into standards discussion.

:yahoo






(I thought the "dancing" overboard too. Maybe if the audience had got with it better....) :shhh

Maple Leaf 12-23-2007 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind (Post 335746)
Ahhhhh, even in Canada, threads evolve into standards discussion.

:yahoo






(I thought the "dancing" overboard too. Maybe if the audience had got with it better....) :shhh
I liked the dancing.

I've have liked it even more if it had been to a good McGruder song.

I'd as soon have a root canal with a rototiller as listen to very much of that music.:penguin:penguin

The lights and smoke were great. I might try a strobe and some pyrotechnics the next time I preach on the nether world (and the music that is spawned there).

BoredOutOfMyMind 12-23-2007 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Maple Leaf (Post 335748)
I liked the dancing.

I've have liked it even more if it had been to a good McGruder song.

I'd as soon have a root canal with a rototiller as listen to very much of that music.:penguin:penguin

The lights and smoke were great. I might try a strobe and some pyrotechnics the next time I preach on the nether world (and the music that is spawned there).
I was surprised with the talent there, they used a soundtrack. Oh well, they are not my Saints....

I used to say how much I disliked the McGruders, and the Lord pricked my heart on that matter.

Maple Leaf 12-23-2007 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind (Post 335751)
I was surprised with the talent there, they used a soundtrack. Oh well, they are not my Saints....

I used to say how much I disliked the McGruders, and the Lord pricked my heart on that matter.
I think that the value in using a sound track for such a performance is the consistency of the product and the difficulty in finding someone to play and sing a song a thousand times while the performers get their moves down pat.

D&J 12-23-2007 03:56 PM
Had a wonderful Christmas Concert and Drama this morning at New Life.

Good crowd, good acting and a wonderful presence of the Lord!!

Mrs. LPW 12-23-2007 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Maple Leaf (Post 335739)
Very interesting.

Would I be correct to say that Interpretive Sign involves hand movements, and is to be distinguished from Interpretive Dance which is more whole bodied?

Yes, I would say so. They never do "dance" moves. The jumping on that song is about the only dance they do. And on a regular Sun service we don't have fog and lights. I'm not sure when exactly that was recorded, I'm guessing Youth Explosion.

Please understand that I am in no way critical of either signing or dancing, but am curious about the concept of Interpretive Sign?
I don't believe I've seen or heard of any UPC church doing actual choreographed dances... someone can correct me if I'm wrong though. A lot of churches have been doing the signing though.

Boomm, I certainly wasn't referring to standards when I said our girls were wearing flowing garments while doing their thing... just that they were modest about it. (as opposed to the secular dance troupe I had seen at a gospel event recently

Mrs. LPW 12-23-2007 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind (Post 335751)
I was surprised with the talent there, they used a soundtrack. Oh well, they are not my Saints....

I used to say how much I disliked the McGruders, and the Lord pricked my heart on that matter.
I am TOTALLY with you on the sound track thing... I never cared for canned music in church for some reason. But the point of practicing is a good one... imagine how tired Mrs. Monkeyman would be of playing that song!!!:jolly

I'm not a country all the time girl myself, I like a good variety.. but I also like to understand the words I'm hearing and have my hearing in tact at the end of service too!! I think I'm a young woman trapped in an old woman's body or something.

Mrs. LPW 12-23-2007 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by D&J (Post 335792)
Had a wonderful Christmas Concert and Drama this morning at New Life.

Good crowd, good acting and a wonderful presence of the Lord!!
I love Christmas time... the plays and the music!

TRIPLE E 12-23-2007 06:51 PM
We had a beautiful Candlelight service tonight at our church with some nice hot apple cider and shortbread cookies!

Mrs. LPW 12-23-2007 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TRIPLE E (Post 335848)
We had a beautiful Candlelight service tonight at our church with some nice hot apple cider and shortbread cookies!
...and which church was that?:christmoose

D&J 12-23-2007 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TRIPLE E (Post 335848)
We had a beautiful Candlelight service tonight at our church with some nice hot apple cider and shortbread cookies!
Wonderful... glad to hear it!!

We will have a Christmas Eve Carol Sing tomorrow night. It is always a wonderful time!!

Destiny2 12-23-2007 07:41 PM
We had 5 baptised in Jesus Name this morning ,a baby dedication,a choir miniconcert,a stirring message on the Light of the world with a good response.
Tonight ,Sunday school concert and tomorrow night a candlelight service
God is good.!!

Maple Leaf 12-23-2007 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by D&J (Post 335858)
Wonderful... glad to hear it!!

We will have a Christmas Eve Carol Sing tomorrow night. It is always a wonderful time!!
The Christmas Eve service is one of my favourite parts of the whole church Christmas celebration. We intersperse readings of the Christmas story, from the Anunciation to Mary to the Wise Men's visit, with Christmas carols, and have a short, but inspiring (I hope), message from the pastor, and conclude with Christmas cookies and punch (Kool Aid drill).

We were going to have an interpretive dance troupe, dressed as elves, do Jingle Bell Rock, but I've got under conviction over that, so, now, we're just going to have a brother that talks with his hands do one of the readings and call it Interpretive Sign.
:penguin:penguin:penguin

Maple Leaf 12-23-2007 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Destiny2 (Post 335894)
We had 5 baptised in Jesus Name this morning ,a baby dedication,a choir miniconcert,a stirring message on the Light of the world with a good response.
Tonight ,Sunday school concert and tomorrow night a candlelight service
God is good.!!

And, on Tuesday, an ecumenical gathering of clergy and saints around the carcass of a dead turkey.

:christmasjig:christmasjig:christmasjig

Barb 12-23-2007 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Destiny2 (Post 335894)
We had 5 baptised in Jesus Name this morning ,a baby dedication,a choir miniconcert,a stirring message on the Light of the world with a good response.
Tonight ,Sunday school concert and tomorrow night a candlelight service
God is good.!!
Wonderful news, Mother D...:star

Barb 12-23-2007 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Maple Leaf (Post 335905)
And, on Tuesday, an ecumenical gathering of clergy and saints around the carcass of a dead turkey.

:christmasjig:christmasjig:christmasjig
:thwak

Truly Blessed 12-23-2007 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Maple Leaf (Post 335662)
And you as well, Pastor Blessed.

You must be having a quieter than usual Christmas - Christmas is hectic in the pastorate, but a happy hectic.

You'll be missing the grandchildren this Christmas, but Bro. Mike is grinning over having them home.
You're right about that!

Truly Blessed 12-23-2007 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 335684)
I have never seen the Smythe Street interpretive dances... so I'm not commenting on those, but I was to an event recently where there was a choreographed dance to a popular worship song. It wasn't mostly sign, with modestly dressed young people filled with the Holy Ghost themselves doing it... it was a secular dance troupe, dressed in tight form fitted ballet outfits doing a dance that in some parts was provocative.

I still can't agree with just anything being done in the name of worship...
I agree. Whatever type of dance is being done modesty needs to be practiced. Anything that fails to edify Christ and the Body of Christ has no place in worship IMHO.

Truly Blessed 12-23-2007 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Maple Leaf (Post 335748)
I liked the dancing.

I've have liked it even more if it had been to a good McGruder song.

I'd as soon have a root canal with a rototiller as listen to very much of that music.:penguin:penguin

The lights and smoke were great. I might try a strobe and some pyrotechnics the next time I preach on the nether world (and the music that is spawned there).
:jolly:jolly:jolly:jolly


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