Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 986475)

praying, worshipping, gathering?

Well then that changes the whole context of what we are saying. How long should we wait. 1 hour? 3? 5?

How is that celibacy working out for you?

Makes sense though because there is beauty in marital sex. I can understand how someone having pre-marital sex or masturbation with pornography just before a gathering could feel guilty and "impure." :)

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 986484)

the waiting period is a day, from morning to church time. Celibacy is fine, I've been married and I've been divorced for 11 years. I know what I've been missing. There is a lot more to relationships than sex. For some people sex is not worth the hassle of relationship issues. My aunt has been celibate for 30 years and she doesn't miss a man one bit.

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 986482)

1 Corinthians 7:1-5
1 Now concerning the things of which you wrote to me:
It is good for a man not to touch a woman. 2 Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband. 3 Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 5 Do not deprive one another except with consent for a time, that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again so that Satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. NKJV

1 Now regarding the questions you asked in your letter. Yes, it is good to live a celibate life. 2 But because there is so much sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman should have her own husband.
3 The husband should fulfill his wife’s sexual needs, and the wife should fulfill her husband’s needs. 4 The wife gives authority over her body to her husband, and the husband gives authority over his body to his wife.
5 Do not deprive each other of sexual relations, unless you both agree to refrain from sexual intimacy for a limited time so you can give yourselves more completely to prayer. Afterward, you should come together again so that Satan won’t be able to tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
New Living Translation

1 Now, getting down to the questions you asked in your letter to me. First, Is it a good thing to have sexual relations? 2-6Certainly—but only within a certain context. It's good for a man to have a wife, and for a woman to have a husband. Sexual drives are strong, but marriage is strong enough to contain them and provide for a balanced and fulfilling sexual life in a world of sexual disorder. The marriage bed must be a place of mutuality—the husband seeking to satisfy his wife, the wife seeking to satisfy her husband. Marriage is not a place to "stand up for your rights." Marriage is a decision to serve the other, whether in bed or out. Abstaining from sex is permissible for a period of time if you both agree to it, and if it's for the purposes of prayer and fasting—but only for such times. Then come back together again. Satan has an ingenious way of tempting us when we least expect it. I'm not, understand, commanding these periods of abstinence—only providing my best counsel if you should choose them. The Message

Originally Posted by scotty (Post 986487)

Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 986489)

But there's football on Sundays! :ursofunny

Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 986486)

When does morning start, btw? When you wake up? I mean, if Saturday night gets lengthy, am I then guilty of it being morning? Are you still convinced what you are saying is biblical?

Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 986489)

But there's football on Sundays! :ursofunny

Originally Posted by scotty (Post 986492)

:ursofunny... good question, you know they advertise the help meds for up to 4 hours. But then you gotta "seek medical attention". Hmmm, could you go to church and request prayer for that ?

Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 986486)

How do people in celibacy, fulfill the needs of the body with integrity? Dicey question, I know.

Celibate people have a reputation of being grumpy. Is that a false stereotype?

When does morning start, btw? When you wake up? I mean, if Saturday night gets lengthy, am I then guilty of it being morning? Are you still convinced what you are saying is biblical?

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 986498)

I guess this is OK if it is Saturday night then. :)

http://images.sodahead.com/blogs/000...is_xlarge.jpeg

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 986499)

Chocolate!

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 986501)

Is that not the stupidiest ad - - - who would have two bathtubs outside!!

And, they aren't even together.

Originally Posted by scotty (Post 986504)

thats not disturbing at all :ursofunny

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 986482)

1 Corinthians 7:1-5
1 Now concerning the things of which you wrote to me:
It is good for a man not to touch a woman. 2 Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband. 3 Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 5 Do not deprive one another except with consent for a time, that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again so that Satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. NKJV
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Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 986486)

How do people in celibacy, fulfill the needs of the body with integrity?

Dicey question, I know.

Celibate people have a reputation of being grumpy. Is that a false stereotype?

When does morning start, btw? When you wake up? I mean, if Saturday night gets lengthy, am I then guilty of it being morning? Are you still convinced what you are saying is biblical?

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 986505)

I do agree. I marvel at how much effort it took to haul two full sized bathtubs out into the wilderness somewhere.

Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 986489)

But there's football on Sundays! :ursofunny

Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 986486)

How do people in celibacy, fulfill the needs of the body with integrity?

Dicey question, I know.

Celibate people have a reputation of being grumpy. Is that a false stereotype?

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 986510)

Why don't you ask Christ how he fulfilled his celibacy, or Paul.
It's not impossible and it gets easier with time. The obvious answer is masturbation in case you didn't know. Welcome to human kind.

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 986514)

but masturbation is considered sinful by some preachers

(probably by some that say you should not have any type sex on church days)

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 986512)

There's always some available time during half time
or
put the tv on pause for a while and maybe you can score while the tv is paused

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 986518)

Perhaps DM is saying that there are certain things that may not be appropriate do do IN church. Yes, that has to be it.

http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/pic...&pictureid=993

Originally Posted by scotty (Post 986525)

Add chocolate and Renda my go back UPC ! :ursofunny

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 986518)

Perhaps DM is saying that there are certain things that may not be appropriate do do IN church. Yes, that has to be it.

http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/pic...&pictureid=993

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 986533)

Dumbest thread of all time. Thanks DM.

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 986533)

Dumbest thread of all time. Thanks DM.

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 986467)

the latter and what's the big deal? I have been single and celibate for 10 years. So I'm not knockin ya Renda.

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 986534)

but there is not a lot of fighting, judging, and name calling and casting doubt on each other's salvation like some of our threads

and I don't think anyone has received an infraction

Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 986486)

How do people in celibacy, fulfill the needs of the body with integrity? Dicey question, I know.

Celibate people have a reputation of being grumpy. Is that a false stereotype?

When does morning start, btw? When you wake up? I mean, if Saturday night gets lengthy, am I then guilty of it being morning? Are you still convinced what you are saying is biblical?

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 986536)

:toofunny

Then why is this even a problem for you???????

It's most definitely NOT your business if other people have sex on Sundays. If you're single, and you have no vested interest in this discussion, then why start the thread? It's certainly not ever your place to determine whether the rest of the married couples in the church are allowed to have sex before they attend church.

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 986510)

Why don't you ask Christ how he fulfilled his celibacy, or Paul.
It's not impossible and it gets easier with time. The obvious answer is masturbation in case you didn't know. Welcome to human kind.

Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 986541)

How do you keep masturbation "pure." How does it not become sexual fantasy about others, pornography, etc?

Originally Posted by nahkoe (Post 986513)

Love the questions. :D

I dunno the answers. I've been single for 6 years. I've done some things during that time that I wouldn't do again. Right now I'm telling God it would be nice if He would make another man from scratch cuz I doubt there's one that already exists who would take on my family...but, I would really like to try this marriage thing again....soon. And trust me, it's not the home repairs I'd like help with....

Originally Posted by Berkley (Post 986542)

It's not possible.

Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 986465)

Where does the husband have to consider hers? What version you reading? :ursofunny

This is something that takes compromise for sure.

Oh boy, now we are getting more off track.

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 986514)

but masturbation is considered sinful by some preachers

(probably by some that say you should not have any type sex on church days)