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Dedicated Mind 11-11-2010 02:01 PM

Re: Sex On Church Day
 
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Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 986475)
praying, worshipping, gathering?

Well then that changes the whole context of what we are saying. How long should we wait. 1 hour? 3? 5?

How is that celibacy working out for you?

Makes sense though because there is beauty in marital sex. I can understand how someone having pre-marital sex or masturbation with pornography just before a gathering could feel guilty and "impure." :)

the waiting period is a day, from morning to church time. Celibacy is fine, I've been married and I've been divorced for 11 years. I know what I've been missing. There is a lot more to relationships than sex. For some people sex is not worth the hassle of relationship issues. My aunt has been celibate for 30 years and she doesn't miss a man one bit.

Socialite 11-11-2010 02:04 PM

Re: Sex On Church Day
 
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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 986484)
the waiting period is a day, from morning to church time. Celibacy is fine, I've been married and I've been divorced for 11 years. I know what I've been missing. There is a lot more to relationships than sex. For some people sex is not worth the hassle of relationship issues. My aunt has been celibate for 30 years and she doesn't miss a man one bit.

How do people in celibacy, fulfill the needs of the body with integrity?

Dicey question, I know.

Celibate people have a reputation of being grumpy. Is that a false stereotype?

When does morning start, btw? When you wake up? I mean, if Saturday night gets lengthy, am I then guilty of it being morning? Are you still convinced what you are saying is biblical?

scotty 11-11-2010 02:05 PM

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Think I'll stick to the old sayin, "once a day and twice on Sunday"

Socialite 11-11-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 986482)
1 Corinthians 7:1-5
1 Now concerning the things of which you wrote to me:
It is good for a man not to touch a woman. 2 Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband. 3 Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 5 Do not deprive one another except with consent for a time, that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again so that Satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. NKJV

1 Now regarding the questions you asked in your letter. Yes, it is good to live a celibate life. 2 But because there is so much sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman should have her own husband.
3 The husband should fulfill his wife’s sexual needs, and the wife should fulfill her husband’s needs. 4 The wife gives authority over her body to her husband, and the husband gives authority over his body to his wife.
5 Do not deprive each other of sexual relations, unless you both agree to refrain from sexual intimacy for a limited time so you can give yourselves more completely to prayer. Afterward, you should come together again so that Satan won’t be able to tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
New Living Translation

1 Now, getting down to the questions you asked in your letter to me. First, Is it a good thing to have sexual relations? 2-6Certainly—but only within a certain context. It's good for a man to have a wife, and for a woman to have a husband. Sexual drives are strong, but marriage is strong enough to contain them and provide for a balanced and fulfilling sexual life in a world of sexual disorder. The marriage bed must be a place of mutuality—the husband seeking to satisfy his wife, the wife seeking to satisfy her husband. Marriage is not a place to "stand up for your rights." Marriage is a decision to serve the other, whether in bed or out. Abstaining from sex is permissible for a period of time if you both agree to it, and if it's for the purposes of prayer and fasting—but only for such times. Then come back together again. Satan has an ingenious way of tempting us when we least expect it. I'm not, understand, commanding these periods of abstinence—only providing my best counsel if you should choose them. The Message

I was only having fun with you. But thanks for being biblical :thumbsup

Hey, re the bolded, maybe DM is on to something! :neener

Socialite 11-11-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by scotty (Post 986487)
Think I'll stick to the old sayin, "once a day and twice on Sunday"

But there's football on Sundays! :ursofunny

RandyWayne 11-11-2010 02:08 PM

Re: Sex On Church Day
 
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Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 986489)
But there's football on Sundays! :ursofunny

....and Monday nights (are you ready!!!!) and starting tonight through the rest of the season, Thursdays!

scotty 11-11-2010 02:09 PM

Re: Sex On Church Day
 
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Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 986486)
When does morning start, btw? When you wake up? I mean, if Saturday night gets lengthy, am I then guilty of it being morning? Are you still convinced what you are saying is biblical?

:ursofunny... good question, you know they advertise the help meds for up to 4 hours. But then you gotta "seek medical attention". Hmmm, could you go to church and request prayer for that ?

scotty 11-11-2010 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 986489)
But there's football on Sundays! :ursofunny

Yes there is .. .no tv required. :bigbaby

rgcraig 11-11-2010 02:11 PM

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You guys are just being goofy now!

RandyWayne 11-11-2010 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by scotty (Post 986492)
:ursofunny... good question, you know they advertise the help meds for up to 4 hours. But then you gotta "seek medical attention". Hmmm, could you go to church and request prayer for that ?

I guess this is OK if it is Saturday night then. :)

http://images.sodahead.com/blogs/000...is_xlarge.jpeg

rgcraig 11-11-2010 02:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 986486)
How do people in celibacy, fulfill the needs of the body with integrity? Dicey question, I know.

Celibate people have a reputation of being grumpy. Is that a false stereotype?

When does morning start, btw? When you wake up? I mean, if Saturday night gets lengthy, am I then guilty of it being morning? Are you still convinced what you are saying is biblical?

Chocolate!

rgcraig 11-11-2010 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 986498)
I guess this is OK if it is Saturday night then. :)

http://images.sodahead.com/blogs/000...is_xlarge.jpeg

Is that not the stupidiest ad - - - who would have two bathtubs outside!!

And, they aren't even together.

scotty 11-11-2010 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 986499)
Chocolate!


thats not disturbing at all :ursofunny

RandyWayne 11-11-2010 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 986501)
Is that not the stupidiest ad - - - who would have two bathtubs outside!!

And, they aren't even together.

I do agree. I marvel at how much effort it took to haul two full sized bathtubs out into the wilderness somewhere.

rgcraig 11-11-2010 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by scotty (Post 986504)
thats not disturbing at all :ursofunny

To eat!

Sam 11-11-2010 02:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 986482)
1 Corinthians 7:1-5
1 Now concerning the things of which you wrote to me:
It is good for a man not to touch a woman. 2 Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband. 3 Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 5 Do not deprive one another except with consent for a time, that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again so that Satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. NKJV
...

Here is how it reads in the OJB (Orthodox Jewish Bible)
1 Now, concerning the things in your iggeret, let's take up the next inyan (topic): “it is beneficial for a man not to touch an isha” [i.e., postpone the chasunoh (wedding)].2 But, because of the acts of zenut, let each Ben Adam have his own Isha, and let each Isha have her own Ba'al (Husband). 3 Let the ba'al render the conjugal choiv (debt) to his isha, and llikewise also the isha to her ba'al (husband). 4 It is not the isha who has samchut (authority) over her own body, but the ba'al (husband); likewise, also it is not the ba'al (husband) who has samchut over his own body, but the isha. 5 Do not deprive each other, unless by agreement for a set time, that you may renew zerizut (diligence) to tefillah (prayer) and again you may be together, lest Hasatan lead you into nissayon (temptation) because of your lack of shlitah atzmi (self-control).

Here is how it reads in Murdock's translation of the Syriac Bible
01 And concerning the things of which ye wrote to me, it is praiseworthy for a man not to approach a woman.
02 But, on account of whoredom, let each have his own wife and let a woman have her own husband.
03 And let the man render to his wife the kindness which is due; and so also the woman to her husband.
04 The woman is not the sovereign over her body, but her husband: so also the man is not the sovereign over his body, but the wife.
05 Therefore, deprive not one another, except when ye both consent, at the time ye devote yourselves to fasting and prayer; and return again to the same disposition, that Satan tempt you not because of the concupiscence of your body

Dedicated Mind 11-11-2010 02:19 PM

Re: Sex On Church Day
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 986486)
How do people in celibacy, fulfill the needs of the body with integrity?

Dicey question, I know.

Celibate people have a reputation of being grumpy. Is that a false stereotype?

When does morning start, btw? When you wake up? I mean, if Saturday night gets lengthy, am I then guilty of it being morning? Are you still convinced what you are saying is biblical?

Why don't you ask Christ how he fulfilled his celibacy, or Paul.
It's not impossible and it gets easier with time. The obvious answer is masturbation in case you didn't know. Welcome to human kind.

scotty 11-11-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 986505)
I do agree. I marvel at how much effort it took to haul two full sized bathtubs out into the wilderness somewhere.

Whats funny is if it lasted just 2 hours I would need medical attention.

Sam 11-11-2010 02:19 PM

Re: Sex On Church Day
 
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Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 986489)
But there's football on Sundays! :ursofunny

There's always some available time during half time
or
put the tv on pause for a while and maybe you can score while the tv is paused

nahkoe 11-11-2010 02:20 PM

Re: Sex On Church Day
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 986486)
How do people in celibacy, fulfill the needs of the body with integrity?

Dicey question, I know.

Celibate people have a reputation of being grumpy. Is that a false stereotype?

Love the questions. :D

I dunno the answers. I've been single for 6 years. I've done some things during that time that I wouldn't do again. Right now I'm telling God it would be nice if He would make another man from scratch cuz I doubt there's one that already exists who would take on my family...but, I would really like to try this marriage thing again....soon. And trust me, it's not the home repairs I'd like help with....

Sam 11-11-2010 02:21 PM

Re: Sex On Church Day
 
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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 986510)
Why don't you ask Christ how he fulfilled his celibacy, or Paul.
It's not impossible and it gets easier with time. The obvious answer is masturbation in case you didn't know. Welcome to human kind.


but masturbation is considered sinful by some preachers

(probably by some that say you should not have any type sex on church days)

scotty 11-11-2010 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 986514)
but masturbation is considered sinful by some preachers

(probably by some that say you should not have any type sex on church days)

and usually leads to other activities that are sinful to enhance the experience . We are only human.

RandyWayne 11-11-2010 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 986512)
There's always some available time during half time
or
put the tv on pause for a while and maybe you can score while the tv is paused

And the added bonus is when you come back you'll be able to fast forward through some more commercials when they start.

RandyWayne 11-11-2010 02:26 PM

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Perhaps DM is saying that there are certain things that may not be appropriate do do IN church. Yes, that has to be it.

http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/pic...&pictureid=993

scotty 11-11-2010 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 986518)
Perhaps DM is saying that there are certain things that may not be appropriate do do IN church. Yes, that has to be it.

http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/pic...&pictureid=993

Add chocolate and Renda my go back UPC ! :ursofunny

Azzan 11-11-2010 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by scotty (Post 986525)
Add chocolate and Renda my go back UPC ! :ursofunny

Oh you guys... you're killing me! :ursofunny It's like I don't wanna watch but I can't help myself! :spit Stop it! I need to get some work done!

Dedicated Mind 11-11-2010 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 986518)
Perhaps DM is saying that there are certain things that may not be appropriate do do IN church. Yes, that has to be it.

http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/pic...&pictureid=993

hilarious Randy! post of the day.

DAII 11-11-2010 02:39 PM

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Dumbest thread of all time. Thanks DM.

Sam 11-11-2010 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DAII (Post 986533)
Dumbest thread of all time. Thanks DM.

but there is not a lot of fighting, judging, and name calling and casting doubt on each other's salvation like some of our threads

and I don't think anyone has received an infraction

scotty 11-11-2010 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DAII (Post 986533)
Dumbest thread of all time. Thanks DM.

there ya go DM , if Dan thinks its stupid then your definatly wrong.

After all , he IS more apostolic than you.

MissBrattified 11-11-2010 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 986467)
the latter and what's the big deal? I have been single and celibate for 10 years. So I'm not knockin ya Renda.

:toofunny

Then why is this even a problem for you???????

It's most definitely NOT your business if other people have sex on Sundays. If you're single, and you have no vested interest in this discussion, then why start the thread? It's certainly not ever your place to determine whether the rest of the married couples in the church are allowed to have sex before they attend church.

scotty 11-11-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 986534)
but there is not a lot of fighting, judging, and name calling and casting doubt on each other's salvation like some of our threads

and I don't think anyone has received an infraction

LOVE -- the universal language.

No church tonight, so no need for infractions.

berkeley 11-11-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 986486)
How do people in celibacy, fulfill the needs of the body with integrity? Dicey question, I know.

Celibate people have a reputation of being grumpy. Is that a false stereotype?

When does morning start, btw? When you wake up? I mean, if Saturday night gets lengthy, am I then guilty of it being morning? Are you still convinced what you are saying is biblical?

Lot's of graphic dreams, or lots of asking for forgiveness.

berkeley 11-11-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 986536)
:toofunny

Then why is this even a problem for you???????

It's most definitely NOT your business if other people have sex on Sundays. If you're single, and you have no vested interest in this discussion, then why start the thread? It's certainly not ever your place to determine whether the rest of the married couples in the church are allowed to have sex before they attend church.

He is covetous.

Socialite 11-11-2010 02:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 986510)
Why don't you ask Christ how he fulfilled his celibacy, or Paul.
It's not impossible and it gets easier with time. The obvious answer is masturbation in case you didn't know. Welcome to human kind.

I can't ask Paul. He's not exactly taking questions.

How do you keep masturbation "pure." How does it not become sexual fantasy about others, pornography, etc?

(Is this grown-up talk allowed?)

berkeley 11-11-2010 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 986541)

How do you keep masturbation "pure." How does it not become sexual fantasy about others, pornography, etc?

It's not possible.

Socialite 11-11-2010 02:46 PM

Re: Sex On Church Day
 
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Originally Posted by nahkoe (Post 986513)
Love the questions. :D

I dunno the answers. I've been single for 6 years. I've done some things during that time that I wouldn't do again. Right now I'm telling God it would be nice if He would make another man from scratch cuz I doubt there's one that already exists who would take on my family...but, I would really like to try this marriage thing again....soon. And trust me, it's not the home repairs I'd like help with....

:toofunny

I understand... and I'd expect a single mother and a single bachelor to have different experiences.

berkeley 11-11-2010 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Berkley (Post 986542)
It's not possible.

Well, very possible to leave porn out of it.

MissBrattified 11-11-2010 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 986465)
Where does the husband have to consider hers? What version you reading? :ursofunny

This is something that takes compromise for sure.

Oh boy, now we are getting more off track.

I Corinthians 7:3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

:coffee2

I love the fact that the NT church was open minded enough to realize there were some women who enjoyed sex (enough to demand it or "need" it from their husbands)! :D Paul took time out to tell husbands they had to give their wives what they wanted, conjugally speaking. Awesome.

Socialite 11-11-2010 02:47 PM

Re: Sex On Church Day
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 986514)
but masturbation is considered sinful by some preachers

(probably by some that say you should not have any type sex on church days)

:ursofunny

I've never laughed so far than on this thread. Thanks guys! (RandyWayne inlcluded)


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