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Truthseeker 10-16-2010 02:30 PM
Re: Do you feel at all responsible?
 
Maybe I think of being a "friend" in different terms then some are using. I'm all for the showing love, kindness etc......

nahkoe 10-16-2010 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 973572)
Maybe I think of being a "friend" in different terms then some are using. I'm all for the showing love, kindness etc......
Matthew 11:19 and Luke 7:34

Truthseeker 10-16-2010 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by nahkoe (Post 973580)
Matthew 11:19 and Luke 7:34
34The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!

Ok this is what someone was accusing him of. Was he a glutton? No Was he a winebibber? No. does answer change with third accusation?

nahkoe 10-16-2010 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 973585)
34The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!

Ok this is what someone was accusing him of. What he a glutton? No Was he a winebibber? No. does answer change with third accusation?
Why was he being accused of these things?

Truthseeker 10-16-2010 04:17 PM
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Maybe because he eat doesn't make him a glutton, because he drank doesn't make hima winebibber, because he was associated with sinners doesn't make him friends???


Besides, sinners didn't hang around long before converted or left.

Timmy 10-17-2010 08:59 AM
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There's not much I can say here (legally :lol), but I think I can say this: those who think they should not associate with gays should not associate with gays. :winkgrin

Cindy 10-17-2010 09:05 AM
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Maybe because if some associate with gay people, they are afraid they might be considered gay by association? Or as the old saying goes, you are known by the company you keep.

Flutecrafter 10-17-2010 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 973571)
2 Cor 6:14-17

14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
KJV
Ah yes, one of the favored passages that gets used to try to beat people
away from those that need their help.

It gets hurled at me periodically by those who say I should not be in
outreach to occultists and perhaps being friendly with them should
stop....
After all, associating with anyone but christians should be forbidden :blah

Luke 10
30 And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.

31 And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.

32 And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side.

33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,

34 And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.

35 And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.

36 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?

37 And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.

Flutecrafter 10-17-2010 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 973595)
Maybe because he eat doesn't make him a glutton, because he drank doesn't make hima winebibber, because he was associated with sinners doesn't make him friends???


Besides, sinners didn't hang around long before converted or left.
Judas hung around for a few years.....

Azzan 10-31-2010 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Margies3 (Post 973381)
You're right, Mary. I agree. It isn't just the church. But do you think that we should be teaching our children (and adults!) to be DIFFERENT than those others who make fun of people who are not the same as themselves?

Again, I am not saying that we need to become like them. Or agree with them at all. I think it is perfectly acceptable for us to speak with them about their sin - AFTER we have let them know clearly, by our actions, that we are doing that because we love their souls and not because we are judge and jury.

And if we cannot bring ourselves to care enough for their souls to be their friend in order to reach them for the Lord, then the least we should do is to NOT make fun of them and belittle them. It is that kind of behavior on our parts that makes me think, sadly, that we, as well as many many others in the world, have contributed to these young people and their suicide. I really believe that as Christians, we should be above that kind of behavior.

Excellent point. And a lot of gays would be okay with that approach.


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