Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 943515)

Char,

I don't think that's the case at all. You are working very, very hard to get your education and once you get it, I could assume that it might bother you too when there are others out there saying that have what you have without putting forth the effort.

Not addressing so much the DKB thing, but what you've said about his attitude.

Originally Posted by joyful (Post 943517)

This is exactly what I got out of it as well. It's just puzzling. If DKB studied at Wesley Biblical Seminary, a school that is accreditted by the Association of Theological Schools, then why not pursue his degrees there? They even have a distance learning program.

If it's all about money, I think that sends a terrible message about the importance of scholarship and the value of the educational process itself. I want to see DKB promote quality schools to those under his leadership in our movement. He has the educational "chops" to do so. I don't want to see that tarnished.

Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 943510)

Baron,

I think you're a great guy, and have enjoyed our past conversations. However, I must say that you seem to have developed quite an elitist attitude since you graduated from college. It's as if no one could possibly match your hard work and brilliance. You seem to feel absolutely everyone in Pentecost is an unlearned idiot. It's sad to see you go this route.

DKB has a proven educational background of excellence. These petty attempts to discredit him are easy to see through. You think you're more intelligent than he is.

I love ya, but you're dreaming.

Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 943520)

Absolutely, it bothers me when people cheat, lie and are otherwise unethical.

However, DKB's degrees ARE legit and he is still being criticized. I believe the criticism toward LS and others has merit, but this thread has zero merit. It's simply a personal attack which employs elitism.

Even if it were bogus (and it's not), I wonder at the person who enjoys digging up story after story on preachers who mess up. We've had the LS story, the Fogarty story and now this. Really, what's the point, and why is the same folks who seem to revel in the expose?

An agenda is clear.

Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 943522)

If the degrees are legit, AND THEY ARE, how is it any of your concern where they are from? DKB owes no one an explanation. This criticism is completely unwarranted and, IMO, borders on slander.

Originally Posted by Maximilian (Post 943476)

Actually there has been a lot of copy/paste in this thread. Not an entire thread of speculation. We've offered questions about the facts.

If there is cynicism, it's because (unfortunately for DKB), this issue with academics is all-too-familiar in Apo ranks.

Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 943522)

If the degrees are legit, AND THEY ARE, how is it any of your concern where they are from? DKB owes no one an explanation. This criticism is completely unwarranted and, IMO, borders on slander.

Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 943524)

The short response is, You are wrong.

The fact is DKB has more education than I do.

Daniel Segraves worked hard for years to achieve the education he has.

Ramond Crownover has as well.

The problem I see here is a man who is held up as the theologian who speaks for the entire Oneness world and he took a short cut in an area that he really should have taken extra time.

Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 943520)

Absolutely, it bothers me when people cheat, lie and are otherwise unethical.

However, DKB's degrees ARE legit and he is still being criticized. I believe the criticism toward LS and others has merit, but this thread has zero merit. It's simply a personal attack which employs elitism.

Even if it were bogus (and it's not), I wonder at the person who enjoys digging up story after story on preachers who mess up. We've had the LS story, the Fogarty story and now this. Really, what's the point, and why is it always the same folks who seem to revel in the expose?

An agenda is clear.

Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 943533)

Here's the deal. It's none of your business. Get it? It's his personal life and education and has nothing to do with the Oneness movement.

No one can deny that DKB is the most educated GS the UPCI has ever known.