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Evang.Benincasa 11-04-2016 01:24 PM
Re: What is the GOSPEL?
 
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Originally Posted by shazeep (Post 1453282)
so now you got jokes. but you don't have any Book, the part that verifies, the Witness, bring me the witness EB. See if you can break any one of these, the Book is not the Word, the Gospel is not in the Book, the Gospel is the Word, etcetc good luck.
Jesus could preach and David could play his harp and you still wouldn't care.

:throwrock

Evang.Benincasa 11-04-2016 01:25 PM
Re: What is the GOSPEL?
 
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Originally Posted by shazeep (Post 1453284)
i somehow missed Mikes comment--why doesn't clicking a thread take me to my last post in it, anyway, dang it--but anyway, Mike, i'm not contesting where Christ actually is, see, the point was in how Christ is perceived in each bed, each field, each Wanderer. oh, but i forgot, you aren't wandering, you have made it to the PL. sweet.
That was pretty incoherent.

Did you just finish another batch of your 200 proof bathtub vino?

Evang.Benincasa 11-04-2016 01:29 PM
Re: What is the GOSPEL?
 
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Originally Posted by shazeep (Post 1453286)
uh oh, ok, but be careful there, i'd be real careful, because seeking that is finding, and then what is going to happen to your snake on a pole then, huh.
Do you have a velvet painting of Timothy Leary in your dungeon? :smack

shazeep 11-05-2016 07:51 AM
Re: What is the GOSPEL?
 
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1453318)
Jesus could preach and David could play his harp and you still wouldn't care.

:throwrock
So, you are stoning me for bringing you Word?
When i have invited you to bring a Sword? And divide me? EB? What is wrong with your sword, EB?

shazeep 11-05-2016 07:59 AM
Re: What is the GOSPEL?
 
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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1452235)
Is there a scripture that says simply, "The gospel is ______ "

I have looked, and found pages of scriptures that say the gospel has been preached, and many references to the gospel, defending it, preaching it, suffering for it etc., .... but no actual scripture that stands by itself and says.... the gospel is ______ (the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus ?) or (repent, be baptized and receive the gift of the HG with the evidence of speaking with other tongues) or (all of Jesus' words are the gospel)... or _____ ????

I find nowhere in the NT where the gospel is explicitly stated. It was a general concept that was understood, but never fully elucidated as to what it exactly was.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
You are not wrong. You cannot find It, because It is not in There. It is not in There, KeptByTheWord. Now i guess since this is being herd as, what, some kind of condemnation, or dismissal of the Book? No, not at all. The Book is God~Breathed. It divides, too. doesn't It. Keep reading that Book. And see that God is much better than me, at leading people to Word, which is not in there, either, ok. I guess this is why we do not have the Hebrew NT, too; It got written, too, where is It?

The Word must be obscured.

shazeep 11-05-2016 08:14 AM
Re: What is the GOSPEL?
 
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Originally Posted by bbyrd009 (Post 46064439)
wow, even old wine is not pure Word; it is a manifestation of Word. It is Word, "corrupted" into Old Wine, the same as--except going the other way, they're heading right towards each other--from grape juice (water) into new wine, into old wine, on the physical plane. hmm.
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Originally Posted by daqq (Post 46064865)
:think:

You know why the mockers in Acts 2:13 said that the tongue speakers were full of sweet wine at that time of the morning? Likely because it was around Yom Teruah; for sweet wine takes about six to eight weeks to ferment. They would take of the first ripe grapes, crush it up, put it in jugs, (grape skins and all), then bury it under the ground and dig it back up at the end of the vintage harvest. This was one of the quickest ways to make wine, and it was sweet, (thus the name γλευκους - gleukos in Acts 2:13, Job 32:19 LXX, and γλυκασμον in Joel 3:18 LXX), and it was very intoxicating, and it was primarily consumed in the morning, (around Yom Teruah). ;)
Ah, so these were being accused of drinking sweet wine, like the morning drinkers commonly did. Ok.

shazeep 11-05-2016 08:19 AM
Re: What is the GOSPEL?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1453319)
That was pretty incoherent.

Did you just finish another batch of your 200 proof bathtub vino?
drunk as a skunk, yup

Quote:
Originally Posted by daqq (Post 46064865)
:think:

You know why the mockers in Acts 2:13 said that the tongue speakers were full of sweet wine at that time of the morning? Likely because it was around Yom Teruah; for sweet wine takes about six to eight weeks to ferment. They would take of the first ripe grapes, crush it up, put it in jugs, (grape skins and all), then bury it under the ground and dig it back up at the end of the vintage harvest. This was one of the quickest ways to make wine, and it was sweet, (thus the name γλευκους - gleukos in Acts 2:13, Job 32:19 LXX, and γλυκασμον in Joel 3:18 LXX), and it was very intoxicating, and it was primarily consumed in the morning, (around Yom Teruah). ;)
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Originally Posted by bbyrd009 (Post 46065253)
So, they bury it in a grave, and dig it back up in 40 days, is that what you're telling me?
But it only takes 3 days to start turning, huh. :O

And it is consumed in the second part of the day,
after sundown, evening, and morning have all..had their say?
It is drunk in the morning? No--our "morning." "Sunrise."
And compared to morning drinkers?

mfblume 11-05-2016 10:33 AM
Re: What is the GOSPEL?
 
The gospel is spelled out for us here, as has already been shown.

1 cor 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

It is spelled there, KBTW. :thumbsup

shazeep 11-05-2016 11:11 AM
Re: What is the GOSPEL?
 
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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1453448)
The gospel is spelled out for us here, as has already been shown.

1 cor 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

It is spelled there, KBTW. :thumbsup
No, it is not; it is written in such a way so that you may infer it, as long as you need to, but it is obviously not quite what Paul is saying. They are even not in the same sentence. Congrats tho, for finding basically "the one," the closest one--that, incidentally, has no equal, no other witness in the NT. Compare this with the Deuteronomy 30 passage now, and see the witness. Nice arrow, though, right to the one passage that needs to be heard.

See that even though it is not spelled there, a la "This is the Gospel; Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the Scriptures." See, you cannot find this, and you cannot find this for a reason; because the Book cannot lie.

mfblume 11-05-2016 11:34 AM
Re: What is the GOSPEL?
 
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Originally Posted by shazeep (Post 1453456)
No, it is not; it is written in such a way so that you may infer it, as long as you need to, but it is obviously not quite what Paul is saying. They are even not in the same sentence. Congrats tho, for finding basically "the one," the closest one--that, incidentally, has no equal, no other witness in the NT. Compare this with the Deuteronomy 30 passage now, and see the witness. Nice arrow, though, right to the one passage that needs to be heard.

See that even though it is not spelled there, a la "This is the Gospel; Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the Scriptures." See, you cannot find this, and you cannot find this for a reason; because the Book cannot lie.
Sorry, your new age arbitrary approach is riddled with misunderstood parables of the bible with a dash of arrogance and pedantism.


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