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Rhoni 10-23-2008 12:56 PM
Re: Overcoming Lust - Easy to do?
 
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 613462)
Lusting is different than being "inheritantly" sinful. Lust means to covet, long for, desire for - pointedly - to set the heart for.

We can't argue whether or not we have a sinful nature. The Bible bears out that we do. When we covet or set our heart for things that become a "stronghold" - that is lust.

God does make a way of escape. We can't fight our fight with carnal means, but through the spirit.

II Cor 10:4(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;

(5)Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
PO,

The Bible agrees with you and I agree with you. Jesus tells us that for every sin that presents itself in our lives - HE has made a way of escape. It is up to us to choose the escape or to choose to allow the sin dominance in our lives.

Great post PO.:friend

Praxeas 10-23-2008 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ultrajet (Post 613428)
You must not fight the lust alone, fight it together with God.
One way to overcome it is to meditate on thoughts of Jesus Christ or saying His name until the lust perish. Or pray to Jesus and call for help. It works for me. Try it.

Sometimes the reason for lust to rise up has something to do with a demonic spirit, especially when it's addicting.

Might be out of the topic, but try it anyways http://www.takehisheart.com/satanintroduction.htm

It teaches us the methods of the enemy in attacking us.
Humans don't need a personal devil to have problems with lust. All we need is to be humans with a fallen nature. Blaming everything on the devil is one of the oldest lies even in the garden lol

mfblume 10-23-2008 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 613604)
...list of women you see them with are many times; quite ugly [no physical beauty], some rarely in their right mind to the point of being mentally retarded, and some will even practice bestiality, and necromancy. When the sexual sins beset you it isn't about anything but the entertainment of the evil spirit in your life and unless you choose deliverance you will never be free from it.
Do you mean necrophilia, or actually necromancy?

Anyway, counseling must be quite the trip at times, lol.

mfblume 10-23-2008 01:24 PM
Re: Overcoming Lust - Easy to do?
 
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Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 613606)
PO,

The Bible agrees with you and I agree with you. Jesus tells us that for every sin that presents itself in our lives - HE has made a way of escape. It is up to us to choose the escape or to choose to allow the sin dominance in our lives.

Great post PO.:friend
AMEN!!!

Rhoni 10-23-2008 01:38 PM
Re: Overcoming Lust - Easy to do?
 
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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 613625)
Do you mean necrophilia, or actually necromancy?

Anyway, counseling must be quite the trip at times, lol.
Counseling is interesting. The more I counsel the more I know people are the same. We all struggle with the same issues but we each look at the situation from the eyes of our own personal experience with it.:friend

ronharvey 10-23-2008 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 2020Vision (Post 613457)
Exactly. I'm still trying to understand what it means to have "lust in your heart", as opposed to in your flesh. As if some are exempt from lust, and others are poisoned with it. It's EVERY person's battle, and yes, a man's battle is different than a woman's, because we are made differently. 1 John 2:16 tells us it's not from God, but neither was sin. It's Adam's fault and the Prince of this World. The "donuts" caught my attention.
Donut: Noun

1. Sugared Biscuit :ursofunny

Ron

Pressing-On 10-23-2008 02:26 PM
Re: Overcoming Lust - Easy to do?
 
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Originally Posted by ronharvey (Post 613650)
Donut: Noun

1. Sugared Biscuit :ursofunny

Ron
:toofunny

Hilarious!! I'm going to a "all girls" shopping party tonight and have to bribe my husband not to pout about being left alone for a few hours.

I have him a good dinner prepared and while at the grocery store I picked up some lemon and strawberry filled donuts.

That will do the trick!!! I put them under a domed lid on a cake plate! What could be more enticing? :toofunny

ronharvey 10-23-2008 02:47 PM
Re: Overcoming Lust - Easy to do?
 
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 613677)
:toofunny

Hilarious!! I'm going to a "all girls" shopping party tonight and have to bribe my husband not to pout about being left alone for a few hours.

I have him a good dinner prepared and while at the grocery store I picked up some lemon and strawberry filled donuts.

That will do the trick!!! I put them under a domed lid on a cake plate! What could be more enticing? :toofunny
CHERRY CHEESE CAKE!!!!!!!!!! :evilglee

Ron

2020Vision 10-23-2008 05:14 PM
Re: Overcoming Lust - Easy to do?
 
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Originally Posted by ronharvey (Post 613650)
Donut: Noun

1. Sugared Biscuit :ursofunny

Ron
You're funny, Ron. You're point with the sugar-less dough was different than the sugar dough analogy. I enjoy your humor anyway (maybe I prefer donuts over biscuits)

I still don't buy that some people have lust "in their heart", anymore than they have sin in their heart. We over-spiritualize it. We all have lust. Having it "in your heart" I suppose is another way of saying your are bound in sin. There is a "way of escape" and that's the point of the discussion to begin with. Setting your heart to do something is willful sin, and that doesn't mean you have "lust in your heart" as much as you have "sin in your heart".

My takeaway is that there are practical solutions and spiritual solutions. Either way, we aren't fully delivered from this "body of this death". just granted the freedom to overcome it's symptoms that try to control us. It has appetites, but it's the Christian duty to not let the appetites rule us, and dominate our life. These appetites turn into idolatry when a man will give up his marriage, ministry and children in pursuit of it. Of course, only to get there realizing it wasn't all it was cracked up to be.

revrandy 10-23-2008 05:21 PM
Re: Overcoming Lust - Easy to do?
 
I think in large it is in the very nature of man to desire...

Even Adam was not satisfied in his relationship with God...

He saw that other animals has mates and wanted his own...

God created Eve to fulfill a void in Adam...

God created Man to have relationship with Him...

We are created in God's Image...
the problem with lust is that is embedded in our soul to desire...Everything else considered sinful is outside the mind and whoever we obey considering "Who" is on the inside the Bible says his servants we are...if we obey our lust than we become sinful...if we control our desire thru healthy relationship with God and others than we are successful at overcoming it...

Just some thoughts...I could be wrong..


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