Originally Posted by tstew (Post 613388)

Yeah, isn't it amazing that the very same Book that tells us that we can resist the devil and he will have to flee from us, also tells us to flee youthful lust.

Originally Posted by meBNme (Post 613389)

LOL you can cast the devil out. You are stuck with your flesh.
Its far more powerfull.

Originally Posted by tstew (Post 613391)

Absolutely. The most significant victory is the victory over self.

Originally Posted by tstew (Post 613391)

Absolutely. The most significant victory is the victory over self.

Originally Posted by meBNme (Post 613364)

:stirpot



At the risk of looking like I am :stirpot (not my intention)

I am curious about something.
While I do believe that there is some truth in the statement that a man with a lustful heart will likely lust no matter what apparel a woman wears, I also feel that what people wear does have bearing on temptation, and drawing attention to areas of the body that incite lust.

Do you like chocolate? :thebunny I do.
I also like little white powdered doughnuts.
Now if my wife or I don't buy powdered doughnuts, I can go for several weeks without feeling the urge for a powdered doughnut.
But buddy, you set that bag on the counter and I guarantee you it wont be there in 48 hours time for sure.

The doughnuts are always available for me to look at, lust after and consume anytime I want, I just have to go get em.
But when they are bared in all their glory through that little plastic see through window on the bag, right there on the counter.......:thebunny:itsover

I am getting the impression that you are of the opinion that it doesnt matter what a woman wears. She could be wearing a dress so tight if she had a quarter in her pocket you could see if it were heads or tails. Her split could be up to her waist and the neckline determined to meet it. She could have more curves than 400 miles of mountain back roads, and showing them for all the world to see....... AND YET STILL she is completely blameless
when guys look and lust.

Am I reading you wrong? If so I apologize. This is the impression I am getting.

If I tell my wife that I want to lose 5 or 10 pounds so I'm going on a diet.
It would be wrong of her to go buy a bag of those evil, little white powdered doughnuts, and come set them on my nightstand with that little see through window in all its glorious view.
Yeah, I'd be wrong for eaten em since I should be taking care of my body and need to lose weight.
But she would not be completely blameless either.

The Bible says to dress in modest apparel for a reason. I think part of it is because God knows how he created men. He knows that even a man not typically given to sinful lust is certainly far more tempted to give in to lustful imaginations thoughts or deeds if the object of lust is bared right on front of his eyes.

Originally Posted by meBNme (Post 613364)

:stirpot



At the risk of looking like I am :stirpot (not my intention)

I am curious about something.
While I do believe that there is some truth in the statement that a man with a lustful heart will likely lust no matter what apparel a woman wears, I also feel that what people wear does have bearing on temptation, and drawing attention to areas of the body that incite lust.

Do you like chocolate? :thebunny I do.
I also like little white powdered doughnuts.
Now if my wife or I don't buy powdered doughnuts, I can go for several weeks without feeling the urge for a powdered doughnut.
But buddy, you set that bag on the counter and I guarantee you it wont be there in 48 hours time for sure.

The doughnuts are always available for me to look at, lust after and consume anytime I want, I just have to go get em.
But when they are bared in all their glory through that little plastic see through window on the bag, right there on the counter.......:thebunny:itsover

I am getting the impression that you are of the opinion that it doesnt matter what a woman wears. She could be wearing a dress so tight if she had a quarter in her pocket you could see if it were heads or tails. Her split could be up to her waist and the neckline determined to meet it. She could have more curves than 400 miles of mountain back roads, and showing them for all the world to see....... AND YET STILL she is completely blameless
when guys look and lust.

Am I reading you wrong? If so I apologize. This is the impression I am getting.

If I tell my wife that I want to lose 5 or 10 pounds so I'm going on a diet.
It would be wrong of her to go buy a bag of those evil, little white powdered doughnuts, and come set them on my nightstand with that little see through window in all its glorious view.
Yeah, I'd be wrong for eaten em since I should be taking care of my body and need to lose weight.
But she would not be completely blameless either.

The Bible says to dress in modest apparel for a reason. I think part of it is because God knows how he created men. He knows that even a man not typically given to sinful lust is certainly far more tempted to give in to lustful imaginations thoughts or deeds if the object of lust is bared right on front of his eyes.

Originally Posted by 2020Vision (Post 613457)

Exactly. I'm still trying to understand what it means to have "lust in your heart", as opposed to in your flesh. As if some are exempt from lust, and others are poisoned with it. It's EVERY person's battle, and yes, a man's battle is different than a woman's, because we are made differently. 1 John 2:16 tells us it's not from God, but neither was sin. It's Adam's fault and the Prince of this World. The "donuts" caught my attention.

Originally Posted by Joelel (Post 613344)

Oh boy that's a good one,you counsel.

Originally Posted by Joelel (Post 613349)

If you think most women think like you,you have alot to learn.

Originally Posted by meBNme (Post 613364)

:stirpot



At the risk of looking like I am :stirpot (not my intention)

I am curious about something.
While I do believe that there is some truth in the statement that a man with a lustful heart will likely lust no matter what apparel a woman wears, I also feel that what people wear does have bearing on temptation, and drawing attention to areas of the body that incite lust.

Do you like chocolate? :thebunny I do.
I also like little white powdered doughnuts.
Now if my wife or I don't buy powdered doughnuts, I can go for several weeks without feeling the urge for a powdered doughnut.
But buddy, you set that bag on the counter and I guarantee you it wont be there in 48 hours time for sure.

The doughnuts are always available for me to look at, lust after and consume anytime I want, I just have to go get em.
But when they are bared in all their glory through that little plastic see through window on the bag, right there on the counter.......:thebunny:itsover

I am getting the impression that you are of the opinion that it doesnt matter what a woman wears. She could be wearing a dress so tight if she had a quarter in her pocket you could see if it were heads or tails. Her split could be up to her waist and the neckline determined to meet it. She could have more curves than 400 miles of mountain back roads, and showing them for all the world to see....... AND YET STILL she is completely blameless
when guys look and lust.

Am I reading you wrong? If so I apologize. This is the impression I am getting.

If I tell my wife that I want to lose 5 or 10 pounds so I'm going on a diet.
It would be wrong of her to go buy a bag of those evil, little white powdered doughnuts, and come set them on my nightstand with that little see through window in all its glorious view.
Yeah, I'd be wrong for eaten em since I should be taking care of my body and need to lose weight.
But she would not be completely blameless either.

The Bible says to dress in modest apparel for a reason. I think part of it is because God knows how he created men. He knows that even a man not typically given to sinful lust is certainly far more tempted to give in to lustful imaginations thoughts or deeds if the object of lust is bared right on front of his eyes.