Apostolic Friends Forum - UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!

And has no one paid attention to the fact that the prior pastor of the church was Angela's father? He adopted her at some point while pastoring this church.

missourimary

07-16-2010 02:16 PM

Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!

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Originally Posted by DAII (Post 941184)

- The future FIL and pastor announces the romance involving his daughter with Mr. Driver by prefacing his announcement at the church by slandering Mrs. Driver for "spiritual fornication" yet not given a specific reason but rather an open-ended menu of types of fornication such as beastiality and child molestation.
Does this now redine the UPCI's definition of fornication and/or reason for divorce to mean the wearing of immodest clothing?

Dan, would you give me the reference where "spiritual fornication" was brought out as evidence in court, please? I think one of the sites mentioned that he tried to turn it to spiritual fornication in court, but I can't find it and can't imagine a news source saying anything about "spiritual fornication". The only place I can find a reference to "spiritual fornication" is on this site. Thanks.

*EDIT: Nevermind. Found it. http://www.13wmaz.com/news/mostpopul...0&provider=top

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"At last week's trial, Kennedy said, the preacher testified that Driver "wore dresses that were a little short," or blouses that were tight and was not properly submissive. "What he tried to do was twist the definition into what he called 'spiritual fornication'," said Kennedy."

drummerboy_dave

07-16-2010 02:26 PM

Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!

This thing is like Tiger Woods crashing his SUV.

mizpeh

07-16-2010 02:46 PM

Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!

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Originally Posted by missourimary (Post 941221)

How can a court of law prove "spiritual fornication"? Only God could possibly know if someone is spiritually fornicating.

Is "irreconcilable differences" a biblical cause for divorce?

mizpeh

07-16-2010 02:51 PM

Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!

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Originally Posted by Mr. Steinway (Post 938631)

$500,000 Awarded in Slander Lawsuit

This quote from the article is interesting:

Are the days of pastors calling out individual members of the congregation for sin over? I hope so! It's one thing to preach against sin, but it's another when you name names and can possibly ruin the reputation of someone by your public gossip in front of peers.

:thumbsup I hope those days are gone.

I also hope all involved find forgiveness in their hearts for each other and are not consumed with bitterness and such. Our eternal destination is far too important to allow stumbling blocks like this to steer us off course.

DAII	07-16-2010 04:22 PM

Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!

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Originally Posted by missourimary (Post 941221)

Yes, I am going on what Kennedy stated in the article you linked.

He said the pastor tried to twist it to some kind of "spiritual" fornication.

Isn't fornication a work of the flesh?
While "spiritual" or figurative fornication - IDOLATRY- according to the Word?

Angela, being the former pastor's daughter adds a whole new dynamic to this, imo.

For the record, I don't believe Lois is lying. She had done an excellent job pointing out the FACTS to this story. Only pointed to it as a variable in the logic proofs I posed.

All things being true this becomes a serious doctrinal issue also.

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